watercooling coolant question

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what should i get?

i am leak testing my watercooling right now to make sure i'm good to go regardless of whatever i put in there after i bleed it out. but i'd really like to know what the hell to put in it... distilled water? coolant? mix? non-conductive such and such?

i'm new to this whole thing, so lemme know what to buy.

thanks :)
 

essasin

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Cheapest and fairly safe is 90% distilled water and 10% water wetter or some type of coolant to kill of bacteria. The non conductive stuff will cost an arm and a leg to fill up your system but come in very cool colors.
 

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use Zerex, you can get it from DangerDen. and yes, its ball park, you dont need it to be accurate to the mililitre. but for Zerex most people use about 95/5. do TRY to be accurate though.
 

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Originally posted by: essasin
Cheapest and fairly safe is 90% distilled water and 10% water wetter or some type of coolant to kill of bacteria. The non conductive stuff will cost an arm and a leg to fill up your system but come in very cool colors.

uhhh the arm and the leg in a manner of what? 14.99? okey if 15 dollars is too expensive then why are you on watercooling? 1 package is usually just enough for fill a complete loop with a small size rez. You can always top off with DI water.

Anyhow distilled water is suposed to be non conductive itself. But i still wouldnt trust the full distilation process unless i got the water from a very good source. Even then when tested with a refractometer, ralphs/alberstons, distilled water is not extremely pure distilled water. Trust me, i have access to a lab and i actually tested it.

Personally i am using nano pure water off a 100,000 dollar distiling machine, Biomedical purpose. Thank god for LABS!!. Id added some royal purple, friends a car freak and had some of it laying around, although he got very annoyed to find out it was going in my computer and not a car. This is basically a antifreeze with some wetter in it. Im in a 90% nano pure with 10% royal purple. Total volume of water in my loop is roughly around 700ml. 2/3rds of a 1liter mix was poured in the system.

But i would invest in promochil, its great, its totally non conductive, and it has all the things you want in it premixed. And if your wondering, ive seen videos of guys pouring it on a running machine and nothing happens. They have different colors, and UV treatments, or if they dont have what your looking for, just get the clear version and add the dye yourself.

Promochil is on sale at xoxide for 14.99 right now, so it would be best to grab some.

EDIT: OOPS there sale expired, its now 19.99 at either frozencpu or xoxide. But ive used these as my first coolant back in my newbie water cooling days. 20 dollars for the peace of mind of your system leaking by some mistake, and not shorting out 3000 dollar of equiptment is well worth the investment. :X
 

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promochil?

either way, the pc ice soln isn't non-conductive. it's slightly conductive, but less conductive than water. i'm not exactly at ease about that...
 

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If you have some car antifreeze that stuff will work fine (90/10 ballpark). I've been watercooling for six years now, always using antifreeze. No organisms, no corrosion.
 

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I'm using Danger Den's MCT-5. I've had it get all over a CD drive and nothing happened. My case fell over with the res cap off...don't ask :eek:
 

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I've tried the green stuff and it made my system run 2 C hotter than water wetter. Aslo, as long as you use distilled water, contrary to popular beief, you never have to change the stuff out.

Want blue, call Elvis and see what he brings for Christmas, I'll stick with what works best!
 

eits

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who's talking about any green stuff?

i'm debating between pentosin and pc ice. i'm kinda gonna pass on water wetter unless they've got blue water wetter.
 

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Call or e-mail Redline and ask them.

I run a computer... I don't concern myself too much with decorating it! ;)
 

essasin

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: essasin
Cheapest and fairly safe is 90% distilled water and 10% water wetter or some type of coolant to kill of bacteria. The non conductive stuff will cost an arm and a leg to fill up your system but come in very cool colors.

uhhh the arm and the leg in a manner of what? 14.99? okey if 15 dollars is too expensive then why are you on watercooling? 1 package is usually just enough for fill a complete loop with a small size rez. You can always top off with DI water.

Anyhow distilled water is suposed to be non conductive itself. But i still wouldnt trust the full distilation process unless i got the water from a very good source. Even then when tested with a refractometer, ralphs/alberstons, distilled water is not extremely pure distilled water. Trust me, i have access to a lab and i actually tested it.

Personally i am using nano pure water off a 100,000 dollar distiling machine, Biomedical purpose. Thank god for LABS!!. Id added some royal purple, friends a car freak and had some of it laying around, although he got very annoyed to find out it was going in my computer and not a car. This is basically a antifreeze with some wetter in it. Im in a 90% nano pure with 10% royal purple. Total volume of water in my loop is roughly around 700ml. 2/3rds of a 1liter mix was poured in the system.

But i would invest in promochil, its great, its totally non conductive, and it has all the things you want in it premixed. And if your wondering, ive seen videos of guys pouring it on a running machine and nothing happens. They have different colors, and UV treatments, or if they dont have what your looking for, just get the clear version and add the dye yourself.

Promochil is on sale at xoxide for 14.99 right now, so it would be best to grab some.

EDIT: OOPS there sale expired, its now 19.99 at either frozencpu or xoxide. But ive used these as my first coolant back in my newbie water cooling days. 20 dollars for the peace of mind of your system leaking by some mistake, and not shorting out 3000 dollar of equiptment is well worth the investment. :X

It takes about 3 bottles to fill my system and considering you have too clean and drain it at the very least once per year thats around 50 bucks just for liquid. 50 bucks for liquid is an arm and a leg consdering d-water can be had for $1.25. I just have a bay res some have larger res than I do but without the res it would still take at least two bottles which will add up.

picutre of watercooling setup
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Luckyboy1
Call or e-mail Redline and ask them.

I run a computer... I don't concern myself too much with decorating it! ;)

that's cool... i'm concerned because i give a shyt about what my computer looks like because, in a way, it's an extension of me. i like having my shyt together and looking nice, too.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: essasin
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: essasin
Cheapest and fairly safe is 90% distilled water and 10% water wetter or some type of coolant to kill of bacteria. The non conductive stuff will cost an arm and a leg to fill up your system but come in very cool colors.

uhhh the arm and the leg in a manner of what? 14.99? okey if 15 dollars is too expensive then why are you on watercooling? 1 package is usually just enough for fill a complete loop with a small size rez. You can always top off with DI water.

Anyhow distilled water is suposed to be non conductive itself. But i still wouldnt trust the full distilation process unless i got the water from a very good source. Even then when tested with a refractometer, ralphs/alberstons, distilled water is not extremely pure distilled water. Trust me, i have access to a lab and i actually tested it.

Personally i am using nano pure water off a 100,000 dollar distiling machine, Biomedical purpose. Thank god for LABS!!. Id added some royal purple, friends a car freak and had some of it laying around, although he got very annoyed to find out it was going in my computer and not a car. This is basically a antifreeze with some wetter in it. Im in a 90% nano pure with 10% royal purple. Total volume of water in my loop is roughly around 700ml. 2/3rds of a 1liter mix was poured in the system.

But i would invest in promochil, its great, its totally non conductive, and it has all the things you want in it premixed. And if your wondering, ive seen videos of guys pouring it on a running machine and nothing happens. They have different colors, and UV treatments, or if they dont have what your looking for, just get the clear version and add the dye yourself.

Promochil is on sale at xoxide for 14.99 right now, so it would be best to grab some.

EDIT: OOPS there sale expired, its now 19.99 at either frozencpu or xoxide. But ive used these as my first coolant back in my newbie water cooling days. 20 dollars for the peace of mind of your system leaking by some mistake, and not shorting out 3000 dollar of equiptment is well worth the investment. :X

It takes about 3 bottles to fill my system and considering you have too clean and drain it at the very least once per year thats around 50 bucks just for liquid. 50 bucks for liquid is an arm and a leg consdering d-water can be had for $1.25. I just have a bay res some have larger res than I do but without the res it would still take at least two bottles which will add up.

picutre of watercooling setup

how're you liking the pc ice? has it spilled on any of your hardware during a leak or anything? any stories?
 

essasin

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: essasin
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: essasin
Cheapest and fairly safe is 90% distilled water and 10% water wetter or some type of coolant to kill of bacteria. The non conductive stuff will cost an arm and a leg to fill up your system but come in very cool colors.

uhhh the arm and the leg in a manner of what? 14.99? okey if 15 dollars is too expensive then why are you on watercooling? 1 package is usually just enough for fill a complete loop with a small size rez. You can always top off with DI water.

Anyhow distilled water is suposed to be non conductive itself. But i still wouldnt trust the full distilation process unless i got the water from a very good source. Even then when tested with a refractometer, ralphs/alberstons, distilled water is not extremely pure distilled water. Trust me, i have access to a lab and i actually tested it.

Personally i am using nano pure water off a 100,000 dollar distiling machine, Biomedical purpose. Thank god for LABS!!. Id added some royal purple, friends a car freak and had some of it laying around, although he got very annoyed to find out it was going in my computer and not a car. This is basically a antifreeze with some wetter in it. Im in a 90% nano pure with 10% royal purple. Total volume of water in my loop is roughly around 700ml. 2/3rds of a 1liter mix was poured in the system.

But i would invest in promochil, its great, its totally non conductive, and it has all the things you want in it premixed. And if your wondering, ive seen videos of guys pouring it on a running machine and nothing happens. They have different colors, and UV treatments, or if they dont have what your looking for, just get the clear version and add the dye yourself.

Promochil is on sale at xoxide for 14.99 right now, so it would be best to grab some.

EDIT: OOPS there sale expired, its now 19.99 at either frozencpu or xoxide. But ive used these as my first coolant back in my newbie water cooling days. 20 dollars for the peace of mind of your system leaking by some mistake, and not shorting out 3000 dollar of equiptment is well worth the investment. :X

It takes about 3 bottles to fill my system and considering you have too clean and drain it at the very least once per year thats around 50 bucks just for liquid. 50 bucks for liquid is an arm and a leg consdering d-water can be had for $1.25. I just have a bay res some have larger res than I do but without the res it would still take at least two bottles which will add up.

picutre of watercooling setup

how're you liking the pc ice? has it spilled on any of your hardware during a leak or anything? any stories?


No leaks/problems at all and it was constantly on for two years. If you leak test it and properly set it up the risks are minimal.
 

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I'm using distilled water and about 5% zerex. To get a nice uv blue effect I put some frozencpu dye in it
 

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nothing will cool better than straight h20. all the other stuf[water wetter, a/f, pentosin] is mainly used to minimize the chemical reaction between non-like metals in a loop, to keep bacteria from forming, and for looks.

none of the 'additives' will make your system cool better...many tests have been made over the years...but most can make your system LOOK cooler.

straight distilled can still short out your equipment...many have had that happen as well.

as for bacteria, I ran 90/10 af and distilled and still had bacteria in my old rig. really depends a lot if you have your system near sunlight. you'll need non-alcohol algacide if you have your case near a window even if you use a/f.