Watercooling: A walk down memory lane

[cbn]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=247065&highlight=memory+lane

I thought the pictures here were very interesting.

Look at the chipset blocks in post #5.

The connections/connectors for tubing look a lot less robust compared to today's compression fittings. What year did compression fittings become the standard?

 

[Zap]

What? Everyone's using compression fittings now? Damnit, I just put a Danger Den block on my wife's GTX 285 yesterday using barbs. Hate having unfashionable hardware!

 

[Gillbot]

I refuse to comply to the compression trend. Wormies and barbs fo lyfe yo!

 

[cbn]

http://www.overclock.net/4599747-post15.html

Here is a post from 2008 where MartinM is advocating Fat boy barbs over compression fittings. Has the situation changed since then?

 

[Zap]

Dunno, but I know that I won't even need to clamp the tubing on to the barbs - that shit is tight, yo! Had to fiddle with the compression fittings on the CPU block to get it to hold (tested blowing air into it and using my thumb on the other end). I tested with my extra block top (for AMD) and if I pull hard enough, the tubing comes out of the compression fitting with less effort than pulling tubing off a barb.

 

[nitromullet]

I've only been water cooling for a short time, and I've already used 7/16ID - 5/8OD, 1/2ID - 5/8OD, and 1/2ID - 3/4OD... Given the price of compression fittings, I'm not switching until I've settled on a tubing size. ...compression fittings do look great though.

 

[cbn]

I've only been water cooling for a short time, and I've already used 7/16ID - 5/8OD, 1/2ID - 5/8OD, and 1/2ID - 3/4OD... Given the price of compression fittings, I'm not switching until I've settled on a tubing size. ...compression fittings do look great though.

Why have you been switching tubing sizes?

1/2ID would be lower restriction than 7/16ID, but why change from 5/8OD to 3/4OD?

 

[nitromullet]

Why have you been switching tubing sizes?

1/2ID would be lower restriction than 7/16ID, but why change from 5/8OD to 3/4OD?

Finding out what I like better...

7/16ID makes the fit really tight on 1/2 barbs which is a good thing, but you have to heat the tubing to get it to fit on the barbs. For this reason I really don't like working with 7/16ID tubing, but some people prefer it because it pretty much makes hose clamps optional. You can use zip ties instead, which are cheaper and easier to work with than worm drive clamps.

I ordered 1/2ID - 5/8OD by accident... 3/4OD allows for tighter bends before it kinks than 5/8OD. As a general rule, the thicker the tubing the tighter the bend can be before the tubing kinks. I have 1/2ID - 5/8OD Tygon R-3603, and it kinks very easily. Most stores that specialize in water cooling don't even sell this specific size Tygon, I bought mine from Amazon. I do not recommend it.

Currently, I'm using 1/2ID - 3/4OD Durelene from Petra's and I'm pretty happy with it. It's cheap, easy to get on the barbs, and doesn't kink very easily. It does however require good hose clamps.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Now, Im not new to WC or anything...and I know that these are older socket blocks...but what exactly about these is like dramatically different than whats still available? Am I missing something about the awesomeness here?

 

[cbn]

Now, Im not new to WC or anything...and I know that these are older socket blocks...but what exactly about these is like dramatically different than whats still available? Am I missing something about the awesomeness here?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4285279&postcount=60

You might find this post interesting. The first poster points out that there is only so much heat a 200-500 gram piece of copper can dissipate. Vapor adds to that by saying "clamping force" appears to be a good part of the equation ( allowing older blocks to perform better than we expect).

 

[nitromullet]

Now, Im not new to WC or anything...and I know that these are older socket blocks...but what exactly about these is like dramatically different than whats still available? Am I missing something about the awesomeness here?

The main things I noticed are:

Many of the barbs don't have o-rings, but instead are using plumber's tape. The threads may also not be standardized as they are now, but that is sort of hard to tell from the pictures.

There's a lot more aluminum being used than today, and it looks like some blocks even mix copper and aluminum.

...one thing I am curious about are the cpu blocks with three barbs... What is the purpose of that?

 

[Rubycon]

No this is old school here.

 

[cbn]

Nice picture

 

[cbn]

What do you guys think of the Future of watercooling will bring?

Will water cooling being able to pull farther ahead of air-cooling?

Or have we reached the limit of heat transfer for CPU-waterblocks using water at near ambient temps? If we have reached the limit of heat transfer, what is the next step? Lower restriction while maintaining the same heat transfer?

 

[Rubycon]

After seeing how much better a liquid metal TIM works I'd say pastes have a way to go.

Hybrid designs to get the heat out of smaller spaces faster as well. Say heatpipes over the socket cooled by a waterblock or TEC into a waterblock, etc.

 

[Zap]

Many of the barbs don't have o-rings, but instead are using plumber's tape.

Heh, just noticed that last night on my radiator (from my cheap Asetek kit from SVC). It was leaking underneath the "bolt" part of the compression fitting no matter how tight I made it. Took it off and there is some white stuff around the threads. Also get a similar leak with the pump outlet, but the compression fitting there doesn't have a nut around it. :hmm: Had a lot of frustration with this as it was my first go at complete (CPU + GPU) watercooling. My poor wife had to listen to me cuss up a storm. Good thing I bought two kits, because it took parts from both to make a setup that doesn't leak (tested overnight with the pump running).

 

[aigomorla]

CoolerMiester a great guy.

Extremely tallented also in moding.

One of his best works i believe is a WRX case he made, was absolutely jaw breaking.

One of the guys im also glad to know.

 

[cbn]

CoolerMiester a great guy.

Extremely tallented also in moding.

One of his best works i believe is a WRX case he made, was absolutely jaw breaking.

One of the guys im also glad to know.

http://www.coolercasesuk.co.uk/showthread.php?t=737

I just found this on an internet search. Yep, I agree this is amazing work.