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iGas

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Water in Palestine

I didn't know how oppressed the Palestinian are till I searched for international water rights. It seems as if the Israelis are killing the Palestinians off, by stealing their water, and giving settlers and illegal settlers more right to water. And then the Israelis are building walls around water wells in Palestinian land, claiming that they are doing so for security reasons, but the true seems to be that they are stealing the water wells for their own usage. And, on top of everything the settlers are vandalizing existing Palestinian wells by filling it with concrete.

I can't understand how the God loving Israelis can stand for this inhumane crime that echo the crime of the communist fascist Chinese in SE Asia.
 
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monovillage

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My father-in-law dug a well on his own land by hand, he was using it to hand water a vegetable garden. The local water district found out about it (ratted out by neighbors) and made him fill it in. You want me to care about the same type thing happening in the middle east? Why would I ?
 

iGas

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My father-in-law dug a well on his own land by hand, he was using it to hand water a vegetable garden. The local water district found out about it (ratted out by neighbors) and made him fill it in. You want me to care about the same type thing happening in the middle east? Why would I ?
Perhaps your father in law should look into obtaining water permits. I'm sure that there are logical and fair reason as to why the city/local authority give or denial his request for water rights.

And, perhaps it make sense to be a bit more sensitive regarding the ME, because Israel is a welfare state of the US of A.
 

monovillage

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Perhaps your father in law should look into obtaining water permits. I'm sure that there are logical and fair reason as to why the city/local authority give or denial his request for water rights.

And, perhaps it make sense to be a bit more sensitive regarding the ME, because Israel is a welfare state of the US of A.

I'm sure there are logical and fair reasons the Israelis are denying water also. Maybe the Palestinians can look into obtaining the proper permits.
 

StrangerGuy

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another anti-Israel site....figures....

Ironic part is the sheer amount of anti-Israel liberal journalism from the west was possible because Israel made their part of Middle East safe enough for such a thing.
 

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Yet the Palestinians had no qualms about taking all the Israeli water rights.

If only the Palestinians would have a state, then none of this BS would be happening. but the Palestinians do not want a state, they want sympathy and everything
 

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Anybody that says the Israeli strategy is anything but genocide is either lying or not paying attention.
 

EagleKeeper

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Anybody that says the Israeli strategy is anything but genocide is either lying or not paying attention.

Given that you do not understand what genocide means; you are wrong.
 

Lemon law

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At least our OP researched the water rights questions and he is correct.

If those of you that want to deny the truth, the truth has no religion to it and will
not be not be easily refuted.
 

Nebor

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What kind of fool dies of dehydration in Israel when they could be living in a free mansion, driving a mercedes and not having to work for any of it in the UK?
 

piasabird

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I remember watching Lawrence of Arabia, and the prince fassil character said the water is everything. The Israeli people have made the desert bloom through their water preservation projects.
 
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At least our OP researched the water rights questions and he is correct.

If those of you that want to deny the truth, the truth has no religion to it and will
not be not be easily refuted.

There's no denying anything. It's Israel and thus they get to make the rules. As long as Palestinians keep acting like animals they will be treated as such.
 

Lemon law

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I remember watching Lawrence of Arabia, and the prince fassil character said the water is everything. The Israeli people have made the desert bloom through their water preservation projects.
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All well and fine to say that piasabird, but why can't the Palestinians get their fair share?
And politically quite dangerous when Israel is depriving Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan of their fair share of their own waters as Israel steals from aquifers they don't own.

Then there is quite another problem that quite often occurs in semi-arid regions all over the world. As its possible to short term tap underground aquifers that are loaded with salt, and make the desert bloom, but long term those salts build up in the soil and make that long term unsustainable.

Its why Egypt is poised to be in great shape, as the Aswan dam is finally coming on line with all the zillion of gallons fresh and almost salt free water to use.

Ask your self piasabird, do you really really than that Egypt will sell a single drop of fresh water to Israel with the Israeli government's current policies?
 

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My father-in-law dug a well on his own land by hand, he was using it to hand water a vegetable garden. The local water district found out about it (ratted out by neighbors) and made him fill it in. You want me to care about the same type thing happening in the middle east? Why would I ?

And that is why you're a sorry excuse for a human being. It's all about you, and your family, isn't it?
 

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All well and fine to say that piasabird, but why can't the Palestinians get their fair share?
And politically quite dangerous when Israel is depriving Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan of their fair share of their own waters as Israel steals from aquifers they don't own.

Then there is quite another problem that quite often occurs in semi-arid regions all over the world. As its possible to short term tap underground aquifers that are loaded with salt, and make the desert bloom, but long term those salts build up in the soil and make that long term unsustainable.

Its why Egypt is poised to be in great shape, as the Aswan dam is finally coming on line with all the zillion of gallons fresh and almost salt free water to use.

Ask your self piasabird, do you really really than that Egypt will sell a single drop of fresh water to Israel with the Israeli government's current policies?

Israel can survive. Let Egypt ship it to the Palestians. Think of the jobs that it will created to build and maintain a pipeline.
Increase employment for Palestinians.
 

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Perhaps your father in law should look into obtaining water permits. I'm sure that there are logical and fair reason as to why the city/local authority give or denial his request for water rights.

And, perhaps it make sense to be a bit more sensitive regarding the ME, because Israel is a welfare state of the US of A.

You mean the water that is quite literally inside of the land he owns and pays taxes on?
 

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Anybody that says the Israeli strategy is anything but genocide is either lying or not paying attention.

The Palestinain birth rate has increased by a lot just about every recent year from what i've read. if the Israelis are commiting "genocide" then they're doing one hell of a shitty job at doing it. I highly suggust you look up the meaning of genocide and pay attention to the definition.

Thats not to say that I haven't had disagreement with the Israeli Govt about some policies, but your use of that term sounds like a typical unhinged Israel hating "progressive"
 
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monovillage

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And that is why you're a sorry excuse for a human being. It's all about you, and your family, isn't it?

I'm not very international. It's pretty much all about my family, my neighbors, my friends and myself. Who is it for you ? Really, who is it for you?
 

iGas

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I'm sure there are logical and fair reasons the Israelis are denying water also. Maybe the Palestinians can look into obtaining the proper permits.
Please provide links to the logical reasons that dispute the Palestinian, and International human rights claims.

IMHO, the proper permits and claims was taken away/stolen from the Palestinians, and new permits are veto by the sadistic Jewish state.

What good for the goose is good for the gander.

Israel had a dispute with Jordan & Syria in 1976 over headwater rights and Israel was in the right, because Jordan and Syria was going to divert its streams and river instead of letting it flow into the Jordan River, that feed the Jewish state downstream. Therefore Israels should respect the international law that Israel use to make the water right claim against Jordan and Syria, and extend that law to the Palestinian, as well as give equal right and access to water as the settlers have.

That said.

Why shouldn't US citizens be concern regarding how Israel is misallocating US handout/welfare money on luxury goods and weapons to suppressed and stealing from its neighbors? When the average US citizens belly aching about how foodstamps are being use to buy luxury goods, tobacco, alcohol, and guns for convenience store robberies.
 

iGas

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Yet the Palestinians had no qualms about taking all the Israeli water rights.

If only the Palestinians would have a state, then none of this BS would be happening. but the Palestinians do not want a state, they want sympathy and everything
Please provide links to educate my ignorance.
 

monovillage

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Please provide links to the logical reasons that dispute the Palestinian, and International human rights claims.

IMHO, the proper permits and claims was taken away/stolen from the Palestinians, and new permits are veto by the sadistic Jewish state.

What good for the goose is good for the gander.

Israel had a dispute with Jordan & Syria in 1976 over headwater rights and Israel was in the right, because Jordan and Syria was going to divert its streams and river instead of letting it flow into the Jordan River, that feed the Jewish state downstream. Therefore Israels should respect the international law that Israel use to make the water right claim against Jordan and Syria, and extend that law to the Palestinian, as well as give equal right and access to water as the settlers have.

That said.

Why shouldn't US citizens be concern regarding how Israel is misallocating US handout/welfare money on luxury goods and weapons to suppressed and stealing from its neighbors? When the average US citizens belly aching about how foodstamps are being use to buy luxury goods, tobacco, alcohol, and guns for convenience store robberies.

I said it earlier, I'm not very international. What little sympathy I have goes to the Israeli's having to deal with nations and people that have sworn to destroy them.
 

iGas

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There's no denying anything. It's Israel and thus they get to make the rules. As long as Palestinians keep acting like animals they will be treated as such.
That is exactly how the British said about the aborigines in Tasmania, Australia, India, North America, South America, and recently the Germans said regarding the Jews that lead to the exterminations of those people.
 

iGas

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You mean the water that is quite literally inside of the land he owns and pays taxes on?
1. You really do not own the land that you live on. It is belong to the State.

2. You do not own the minerals rights/natural resources under the land that you live on, because you are a surface rights/dweller.

3. The law is there to protect over water usage, water quality and safety, and to provide equal water rights and access to everyone that live in the region.
 
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monovillage

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1. You really do not own the land that you live on. It is belong to the State.

2. You do not own the minerals rights/natural resources under the land that you live on, because you are a surface rights/dweller.

3. The law is there to protect over water usage, water quality and safety, and to provide equal water rights and access to everyone that live in the region.

Oh, a Democrat!