Water-cooling to become mainstream?
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If processors keep using more and more power while becomming smaller and smaller, I wouldn't doubt it.
It's not much of a stretch. It wouldn't take terribly much R&D to make a reliable water cooling system.
Then computers would be even more analogous to cars.
And wow, that article is very poorly written.
It's not much of a stretch. It wouldn't take terribly much R&D to make a reliable water cooling system.
Then computers would be even more analogous to cars.
And wow, that article is very poorly written.
I wonder if people in AK/Canada would have to use ethyl/propylene glycol(antifreeze), just incase?
Wouldn't want any cracked waterblocks....
Wouldn't want any cracked waterblocks....
Welcome to the future. You'll notice if you look back on the past that the bleeding-edge/early adopters of a good technology are usually the foreshadowing of a future commonplace technology. You'll also notice than MANY of the computer geeks around have been using watercooling technology for years. It's a pretty easy stretch of the mind to see that watercooling is what's going to be common in computers in the next 5-10 years, as aircooled tech reaches it's limits.
I'll be interested to see what happens in 20-30 years... liquid NO2 cooling? Who knows.
I'll be interested to see what happens in 20-30 years... liquid NO2 cooling? Who knows.
I don't think it'll be. I just can't see Dell putting water cooling systems into their home PCs... just too risky.
Why is it too risky? leaks that can cause shorts? If there's a tech that can give greater clock speeds a company will find a way to make it commonplace and market it. Watercooling = greater overclocking potential =also= greater clock speeds in the end.
Yes, I can see overclocking becoming mainstream.
Yes, I can see watercooling becoming the cooling of choice: quieter, smaller, needs less air space, more cooling potential.
Yes, I can see boosting clock potential through watercooling (there was an article a while ago that scientifically prooved that lower temps = higher speeds (through higher core voltage tolerances) = higher GHz (remember the article from a few months ago about the 5GHz off the shelf computer?)
It might happen in a year or two. It'll take PC manufacturers a while to adapt. I can see it being implemented in high-end systems before home PCs. It'd add another level of failure in home PCs.
Like I said, it wouldn't take terribly much R&D to make a reliable water cooling system. The "technology" existed 40 years ago. They could even make it a closed loop system where you would never have to add water.. I really don't think it's much of a stretch.
It would add a bit to the cost of a system, but... if that's what has to happen, that will be the price we pay.
Air cooling technology is quite obviously nearing a practical limit. At this rate, we'll be using heatsinks half the size of our cases in a couple of years.
Perhaps.. It wouldn't be much worse than a system who has never seen its case off, and has dust bunnies the size of Texas, causing it to overheat and crash, though.
Really, with a bit of R&D.. they could make a water cooling setup that would be more reliable than an air cooled setup. Leaking isn't a big problem, I think the biggest problem would be the pumps failing.. because there would be a tendancy to use cheap components.
Notice in my earlier post I said 5-10 years, not tomorrow
What'll happen: A few companies will release comps based on watercooling. They'll fail because people don't want to run water in their (electronic, water damagable) computers after they hear about the 1 out of 10,000 or 100,000 that failed and leaked water. The computer geeks will pick up on this at the time and release aftermarket parts that are much safer and won't leak. Larger companies will realize watercooling is the future and pick up on it building on the technologies that the original companies and the computer geeks working out of their basements built back in the day and build mainstream computers with it as a standard.
See passive cooling vs. air/fan cooling processors from back a few years ago as a perfect example.
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i could hear the tech calls now.
Tech rep: "yes? how can i help?"
Customer: "my pc aint workin"
Tech rep: "could you give me the details"
Customer: "its shocking me"
Tech Rep: "why is it shocking you"
Customer: "cause there is a clear non alcaholic substance seeping out of the case"
Tech rep: "yes? how can i help?"
Customer: "my pc aint workin"
Tech rep: "could you give me the details"
Customer: "its shocking me"
Tech Rep: "why is it shocking you"
Customer: "cause there is a clear non alcaholic substance seeping out of the case"
bah, I think the whole leaking thing is blown way out of proportion.
It wouldn't be terribly hard to make a watercooling setup that was virtually impossible to leak, except maybe a physical defect or puncturing it with a screwdriver or something.
Besides, you would never be shocked by the 12v max a system power supply puts out, the water would never be able to leak into the power supply.
BTW.. alcohol.
Honestly, I don't hear very many horror stories about watercooling systems leaking (unless you are the "HELP!!! My AMD system burst into flames so I threw water on the MB to put out the flames while it was still plugged in" guy)
They are not very hard to keep functioning correctly without leaking (see the 1,000's of idiots with aquarium's out there) (yes, I know it's not the exact same thing, but it's very, very close... minus the heatsink)
I think total in my life I've heard 2 stories about a watercooling systems failing (the first being the one referenced above)... out of hundreds of people that put them in. Now think about the variance in intelligence of people installing them in their home computers. Next think about what would happen if a big company invested some good money into making systems on a mass scale with it included. You think they wouldn't put some major money into insuring that the stuff didn't fail and was installed correctly the first time?
Originally posted by: Eli
bah, I think the whole leaking thing is blown way out of proportion.
It wouldn't be terribly hard to make a watercooling setup that was virtually impossible to leak, except maybe a physical defect or puncturing it with a screwdriver or something.
Besides, you would never be shocked by the 12v max a system power supply puts out, the water would never be able to leak into the power supply.
BTW.. alcohol.
How bout a liquid that doesn't evaporate?
Like a non-electrical-conductive heat conducting liquid...
<cough>mineral oil<cough>
See my post above about bleeding edge computer geeks making new stuff in their garage <insert slashdot story about guy who overclocks 300% when dunking MB + CPU in bucket of mineral oil here>
EDIT: Before anyone says otherwise... yes, it was a real story and did actually happen.
Having electronics submerged in oil is nothing new. Deep water submersibles do this to prevent pressure differences.Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Originally posted by: Eli
bah, I think the whole leaking thing is blown way out of proportion.
It wouldn't be terribly hard to make a watercooling setup that was virtually impossible to leak, except maybe a physical defect or puncturing it with a screwdriver or something.
Besides, you would never be shocked by the 12v max a system power supply puts out, the water would never be able to leak into the power supply.
BTW.. alcohol.
How bout a liquid that doesn't evaporate?
Like a non-electrical-conductive heat conducting liquid...
<cough>mineral oil<cough>
See my post above about bleeding edge computer geeks making new stuff in their garage <insert slashdot story about guy who overclocks 300% when dunking MB + CPU in bucket of mineral oil here>
EDIT: Before anyone says otherwise... yes, it was a real story and did actually happen.
I could see it...but it'd have to be completely idiot proof. There are just too many ways to break a water cooling system now for it to be mainstream. Once that happens, then, maybe, water cooling would be mainstream.
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