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Water Cooling....Help

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TheRyuu

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I recently installed some new Watercooling in my Computer (ya know, Storm, GPU blocks, everything) and I'm very impressed. CPU hasn't really broken 33C yet with 5 minutes of prime.

The only thing I'm concerned about is the air bubbles in my system. I'm just not sure how to get them out (bleeding). It seems that everytime I try, I see newones entering from the res.

Does it really matter THAT much?

And besides that little problem, I love it and maby I'll post some pics soon too after I clean up the case a little (did a really sloppy job with the wireing)

Edit: BTW, whats normal temps for a Storm and a nakid Opty 175 @2.5ghz
 
Yes, it matters and it actually shows you might have a leak!

When you turn the pump off, listen for that sucking sound of air in the line and tighten the offending connection.
 
Found the problem, I didn't fill the loop enough.

Surely I started to add more water little by little all the bubble noise went away. I performed about a 5-6 hour leak test, so I'm almost positive there arn't any leaks.

Also, it needed a little more bleeding.

I have another question, what should be my normal temps? I have a storm and a dual core Opty. Also, I have two gpu blocks (maze4), what should be the temps I should be looking for under idle and load.
 
ok, full loop and system specs? no way to tell what your temps should be from what you have said. also, only 6 hours leak testing? 18-24 is what most people recommend. anyways, is it properly bled yet?
 
Originally posted by: Kakumba
ok, full loop and system specs? no way to tell what your temps should be from what you have said. also, only 6 hours leak testing? 18-24 is what most people recommend. anyways, is it properly bled yet?
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I needed the computer back to write a report. So far, I already isolated and took care of one leak, but nothing else seems to be leaking. I've double and triple checked all of the conections for water.

System Specs:
A8N32-SLI Deluxe Mobo
Opty 175 @ 2.5ghz
OCZ PC4000EB Plat. 2x1gb ram
2x7900GT's in SLI with 1.4 vgpu mod @ 640/1650

WC Stuff:
Storm CPU block on Opty 175 with IHS removed
2xCyclone Fusion HL (for SLI on both GPU's)
BIP3 Rad with Yate Loons on it
1/2id tubing
Bay Res.
MCP655 pump (D5)

Thats about it for the WC specs.
Loop order:
pump->rad->cpu->gpu1->gpu2->res->pump

Now can I get an idea of what the temps should be?
 
damn, that system would be putting out a lot of heat. I cant think of any rigs off the top of my head with those kind of specs that I have seen temps for, but I reckon you should be pretty damn happy with that 33 degrees in your OP. how long ago did you isntall? I assume you are using AS5, so if you still arent through your ~200 hours, then things can only get better...
 
Originally posted by: wizboy11
I have another question, what should be my normal temps? I have a storm and a dual core Opty. Also, I have two gpu blocks (maze4), what should be the temps I should be looking for under idle and load.
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There are too many variables to take into account for someone else to give you and accurate temp range for your machine, unless they have the same rig with the same plumbing. In general, though, it seems to me that your CPU temp is just fine for water.

 
Fixed the problem.

Turns out there was a pretty big leak on the rad. Luckly the rad is outside of the case, otherwise it might be half-way filled with water by now.
The problem was apparently the washer around one of the barbs thats screwed into the rad was bad, or just wasn't in right. So I took it out, threw on a new washer and put 8 raps of teflon tape around it (just to be sure).

Running fine now, and also got the report done too. 😛 double wammy 😉
 
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Fixed the problem.

Turns out there was a pretty big leak on the rad. Luckly the rad is outside of the case, otherwise it might be half-way filled with water by now.
The problem was apparently the washer around one of the barbs thats screwed into the rad was bad, or just wasn't in right. So I took it out, threw on a new washer and put 8 raps of teflon tape around it (just to be sure).

Running fine now, and also got the report done too. 😛 double wammy 😉
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Whew, you dodged a fatty for sure! :Q Maybe my next build should be an outty, just in case. 🙂

 
Glad to hear you're leak free... question for you though, does the Storm fit onto the naked Opty without the socket assembly getting in the way?
 
Originally posted by: Painman
Glad to hear you're leak free... question for you though, does the Storm fit onto the naked Opty without the socket assembly getting in the way?
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You have to take off the socket assembly and put the white thing on top of the silver instead of under in.
At least that's what I did.

Also, I suppose you could shave off the feet under the socket assemble.
 
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: Painman
Glad to hear you're leak free... question for you though, does the Storm fit onto the naked Opty without the socket assembly getting in the way?
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You have to take off the socket assembly and put the white thing on top of the silver instead of under in.
At least that's what I did.

Also, I suppose you could shave off the feet under the socket assemble.
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*pops head inside case* OK, I see what you're talking about. Thanks. Opty 165 arrives tomorrow, if it OCs well I might get rid of the IHS too.
 
Just to point out, not much to be gained from removing the IHS on water. really. and at least if you leave it on and dont do any otehr hard mods, you could still RMA. once you take that IHS off, and retarded chipmunk would know you have been up to no good.....

And now you see why I said 18- 24 hour leak test with compy off. you would have picked that one up..... anyways, glad to hear you got it sorted.
 
Originally posted by: Kakumba
Just to point out, not much to be gained from removing the IHS on water. really. and at least if you leave it on and dont do any otehr hard mods, you could still RMA. once you take that IHS off, and retarded chipmunk would know you have been up to no good.....

And now you see why I said 18- 24 hour leak test with compy off. you would have picked that one up..... anyways, glad to hear you got it sorted.
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I have a Storm. Those things were built for non-IHS chips right?
It would kind of be pointless to have a storm and still have the IHS on right? Besides, I'd welcome a few extra degree's off since it only took me 10 minutes at a cut up thumb to do it.
 
I dont know of anything that was made for non IHS chips these days. did you do a compare of IHS vs no IHS vs IHS lapped with AS5?
 
Storm series was definitely developed with cooling only the silicon footprint in mind. If you took a look at a breakout diagram of one, you'd know that instantly. But I'm not going to indulge in any more potential derailment of this thread, you should take a peek a the CPU forum, where one of the front page threads as of right now is about stripping A64s. Go post there if you want to debate the merits or lack thereof.

Re: Warranties and what-not - We're big boys. If we break our toys, we suck it up.
 
Just Started to run Prime on new settings which are 2.75ghz @ ~1.5v and temps get to 37C under load.

That good for a storm? (remember thier onboard sensors, so they might not be accurate)
 
You have to look at the change from idle to load. How much does it rise? Heat the whole rig up using rthdribl to heat up the GPUs and dual instances of Prime to load the cores up to 100%.

Record idle temps, then loop that stuff for an hour or 2 🙂 What really matters is the total temp rise, not what it peaks at.
 
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Found the problem, I didn't fill the loop enough.

Surely I started to add more water little by little all the bubble noise went away. I performed about a 5-6 hour leak test, so I'm almost positive there arn't any leaks.

Also, it needed a little more bleeding.

I have another question, what should be my normal temps? I have a storm and a dual core Opty. Also, I have two gpu blocks (maze4), what should be the temps I should be looking for under idle and load.
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I was at roughly those temps with my MCW6002. Not sure of your ambient, but you're doing fine.

Considering your water is probably hotter [SLi/Crossfire]; you're actually doing great 😉

--Trevor
 
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