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water balloon missile defense battery

DrPizza

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Hopefully, many of you understand how 2-liter bottle rockets work. If you don't, research them a bit before reading the rest of this post.

If you put the bottom couple inches of another 2-liter bottle on the top of a 1-stage rocket, you can basically create a cradle to launch something into the air. Never do it with anything such as a rock - this would be lethal if it hit someone. Idiots who would do that exhibit disregard for their fellow citizens and belong in jail or someplace safe for the rest of us.

Anyway, I noticed the other day that for launching water balloons this way, you don't even need fins on the rocket - the rocket just quickly tumbles and falls back to the ground, but the water balloon follows a remarkably accurate path (accurate to the direction the 2-liter was aiming.) With a bit of wadding (paper towels) to keep the water balloon centered, you can fire water balloons at a 45 degree angle. At 100psi, this blows away my water balloon slingshot, but it's much slower to load and refire. Warning again: these would HURT - causing serious welts or other injuries, just from a water balloon.

Then, the though occurred: just like those arrays of rockets that the army uses (big rectangular array of rockets), why couldn't I build an array of 2-liter bottles, all pressurized from the same source. Then, with a valve to isolate each one, I could launch them individually or simultaneously. All that's needed is a few dozen zip strips (about 8 per launch nozzle, 1 valve per launch nozzle, some cheap pvc and fittings, and some simple plywood work. Heck, you might even be able to think of something simpler to hold the 2-liter bottles away from touching each other. Load the 2-liter bottle tops with water balloons (and wadding), and suddenly, you'd be able to fire 32 or more waterballoons over the span of just a few seconds.

Warning again: this would just be for the geek's sake of amusement. If you've never been hit by a water balloon from a water balloon slingshot pulled back as far as a normal person can pull, then have someone shoot you this way first. When you recover from the pain, (possible broken ribs, internal organ damage, etc.) you'll realize this isn't a toy. I mulled over for a week now whether I'd post the idea or not, because I don't want some idiot making one and hurting someone with it. Let me say this: you WILL hurt someone, you WILL break windows, you WILL damage property, if you aim this at anyone or a house etc. I WILL be glad to testify against you to get idiots like you off the street if you use this in a dangerous manner. It doesn't matter that it's "just a water balloon" - it's a water balloon moving at a 100 miles per hour. i.e. getting sprayed with a garden hose vs. getting blasted off your feet by a fire hose...

I wish I had some pics of my launchers, but there are a ton on the internet already... just use your imagination. Be careful though - make sure the valves can handle the pressure. The PVC I use is rated to 600psi at room temp. I'd never go over 100 psi with a 2-liter.
 
There was a mythbusters where they did something similar. They had an array of water rockets with a chair attached to the top, then simultaneously released all the rockets to see if they could propel the chair a goodly distance. Needless to say, the rockets couldn't be made to fire completely simultaneously but it was pretty cool none the less. They also made rockets out of those large water cooler bottles, they went much higher and could carry more weight.

Cool idea using it as a water baloon launcher, way to bring artillery to the water fight.
 
That sounds cool. Might be a project for the summer holiday.

And there is no way a water balloon launched at 45 degrees can result in internal injuries, unless you are firing them at marshmallow men ;-)
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I wish I had some pics of my launchers, but there are a ton on the internet already... just use your imagination. Be careful though - make sure the valves can handle the pressure. The PVC I use is rated to 600psi at room temp. I'd never go over 100 psi with a 2-liter.

Stress till failure tests we ran showed explosion around 150psi, iirc. So 100psi is a very solid limit... I think our teams were allowed 80psi for their rockets.
 
there's some serious R&D on this subject going on at
Stanford-Berkeley football games, aka the "Big Game".
i was a balloon loader at one game.

are you proposing firing a volley of hundreds of
balloons at an incoming missile, like a serious missile
defense technology ?

i wouldn't bet against the US military financing some
research, they like these kinds of projects. if they
spend $7.5 Million researching a "gay bomb" ...

how about - write a formal proposal and submit it to
in-Q-tel
http://in-q-tel.com/

they're a venture capital company in Silicon Valley.
 
Originally posted by: Nathelion
Problem is, to stop a modern nuke early enough to actually prevent them from damaging unshielded cities, you almost have to stop it before atmospheric reinsertion. In other words, unless you can get your water balloons to reach orbit, they won't be much use.

I think your sarcasm/humor meter needs checking...
 
Why not just mod one of thos t-shirt air cannons to accept water balloons? If one of those can launch a t-shirt 100-200 meters in the air, it should be able to fire a water ballon a lot longer, at least because the relatively spherical shape of the water balloon is more aerodynamic than a tube shaped t-shirts, not to mention the balloon material is much smoother and thus would likely have less of a drag coefficient then a t-shirt.
 
Originally posted by: patentman
Why not just mod one of thos t-shirt air cannons to accept water balloons? If one of those can launch a t-shirt 100-200 meters in the air, it should be able to fire a water ballon a lot longer, at least because the relatively spherical shape of the water balloon is more aerodynaim than a tube shaped tee-shirts, not to mention the balloon material is much smoother and thus would likely have less of a drag coefficient then a t-shirt.

Never mind, already been done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktU-wXR5A-U

more entertaining launcher vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...w&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnpO5f6pSw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Y&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...s&mode=related&search=

Not a launcher vid, but still fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Q&mode=related&search=

 
Good idea to modify the air cannon. The difference is, this isn't just one cannon; this would be like 24 air cannons with the ability to fire in rapid succession. My computer's acting up tonight; same problem I had before. Some automatic update screwed up streamed video.

Originally posted by: oynaz
That sounds cool. Might be a project for the summer holiday.

And there is no way a water balloon launched at 45 degrees can result in internal injuries, unless you are firing them at marshmallow men ;-)

Probably not, when the balloon is on the way down. However, if someone changed it and fired it horizontally at someone,... Well, let's just say that I'd never want to be on the receiving end. For what it's worth, I pressurized a 2-liter bottle with air, to 100psi. I had my apparatus placed under a lab bench. Unfortunately, the 2-liter bottle wasn't below a 1 1/2 inch thick counter portion - it was under the plywood cubby hole for books. The 2-liter bottle went through the sheet of plywood. I dunno about you, but if something can go through even a thinner sheet of plywood, I really don't want it aimed at me.
 
Oh DANG. That's zero factorial, isn't it? 0! = 1. Well, let me tell you, .9999999999... numerically does not equal 1, EVER. It goes close and close and close, never hits. So, hoping that your sig is not a joke, I posted....twice.
 
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Oh DANG. That's zero factorial, isn't it? 0! = 1. Well, let me tell you, .9999999999... numerically does not equal 1, EVER. It goes close and close and close, never hits. So, hoping that your sig is not a joke, I posted....twice.

This rears its ugly head every so often around here.
 
Can't you use smaller bottles... 1l or 500ml bottles? That might relieve your need to pack them with wadding when you reload.

wwswimming ... the topic means the water baloons are the "missiles" and they're intended for defence. Not that they are a defence against missiles.
 
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