Watched RotK EE yesterday... *spoilers*

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BigToque

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There were some parts that were nice to have as they shed a little more light on the story, but a few parts just really took away from the overall feeling.

Eg. The guy who comes out of the black gates at the start of the final fight with Frodo's armour and talks to everyone.

Eg 2. Frodo and Sam start fighing each other when they get thrown into the line and then sneak away.

Anyone else feel the same way?
 
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Fausto

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If you watch the comments in the other discs, they explain why certain things were left out of the theatrical cut.
 
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BigToque

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Originally posted by: poopygood
no, those parts were in the book and fit the "flow" of the movie IMO.
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I know they were in the book, but they just seem either poorly done or out of place. I can't really tell which though.
 
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Sheepathon

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I'm so glad a lot of that was cut out for the theatrical. It took an Innout run and a trip to get more beer to get through it all.
 
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I thought it was pretty good - and the best thing was that the last half hour was left just as it was, no extended scenes of the hobbits being sappy. The 'Mouth of Sauron' bit was good - it was good in the book as well and I'm glad they added it into the extended version. I sent away for the holder for all 3 EEs, seemed like a decent enough deal for $4.
 
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Those things didn't really bother me. What did bother me was the horribly butchered scene where gandalf and company confront saruman as isengard that was in the theatrical edition. "Yo tree beard, whats up? Whoa, there's a doodad in the water!...well, catch you later isengard!" I just kept thinking man, wtf was that suppose to be?

Did the witch king shatter gandalfs staff in the book, I can't remember now? Oh man, I didn't like that part...because it featured gandalf, king of ownage getting his ass totally and completely owned.
 
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meltdown75

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Those things didn't really bother me. What did bother me was the horribly butchered scene where gandalf and company confront saruman as isengard that was in the theatrical edition. "Yo tree beard, whats up? Whoa, there's a doodad in the water!...well, catch you later isengard!" I just kept thinking man, wtf was that suppose to be?

Did the witch king shatter gandalfs staff in the book, I can't remember now? Oh man, I didn't like that part...because it featured gandalf, king of ownage getting his ass totally and completely owned.
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so true. there was definitely no Gandalf pwnage in the book, at least not in the battle at Gondor. And of course no return to Bag End in ruins, and no Sharkey. all that said, i looooove the movies. they were done pretty darn great obviously - huge props. but the ending is supposed to be like a story within a story, like it was in the book.
 
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I had the exact opposite impression. Everything that was added made the movie much better than the theatrical release. I didn;t realize all the good stuff they cut out. The only scene I think I could have done without was the drinking game scene...other than that, it was much better than the theatrical...

 
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meltdown75

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it's true. the EE is better than the theatrical and a must for any die-hard fan. also the whole valley of the dead thing was done much better. when the dead dude materialized from the side of the mountain (part when Aragorn is crushed from seeing the Corsair ships come in) and said that he would fight, i knew that it had been worth the long wait.
 
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ohtwell

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Originally posted by: Stefan
There were some parts that were nice to have as they shed a little more light on the story, but a few parts just really took away from the overall feeling.

Eg. The guy who comes out of the black gates at the start of the final fight with Frodo's armour and talks to everyone.

Eg 2. Frodo and Sam start fighing each other when they get thrown into the line and then sneak away.

Anyone else feel the same way?
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I think both of those parts needed to be in the movie. They were part of the book and needed to be included. The Mouth of Sauron was the part of the EE I was most looking forward too.


: ) Amanda
 
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My only problem with the Mouth of Sauron part was where Aragorn kills him. Definitely not Aragorn style. After reading LotR again, I notice how PJ made Gandalf to be much less powerful than in the books. Witch King never fights Gandalf, they just meet at the Gate of Gondor before WK flies away, and Gandalf's staff is still together.. Also, it's Gandalf that takes care of the Mouth of Sauron in the book, not Aragorn (and the Mouth never dies, Gandalf just verbally owns him.)
Bah, still the best trilogy ever IMO. :D
 
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Some of the bonus scenes were okay, but some it it just plain pissed me off.

Yeah, we could have very easily done without the drinking match scene and lived happily for not having seen it. I can see why someone would want to slip in some comic relief at that particulr point, if that person were a retard or fourteen years old, or both. If that person did decide to slip in a moment of comic relief, it wouldn't necessarliy have to be drawn out for what, seven minutes, and could be based on something actually in the books and not something completely made up and stupid.

The scene where Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas were caught in the catacombs in an avalanche of skulls. WTF was that? Over-dramatic much, PJ? Although they did make up for this by immediately shooting the douche responsible afterwards. So I can live with this one.

Gandalf getting spanked? No. Hell no. After his upgrade he is pwnage personified, and does not get emasculated by a pussy little wraith. I mean, come on. He barely has a body, and he was slapped senseless in the next scene by a midget and a chick. Sorry, this can't be allowed.

The real Aragorn would never have decapitated a lowly messenger, no matter how bad his dental hygene happened to be.


I could go on, but I've got things to do.
 
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Gandalf getting spanked? No. Hell no. After his upgrade he is pwnage personified, and does not get emasculated by a pussy little wraith. I mean, come on. He barely has a body, and he was slapped senseless in the next scene by a midget and a chick. Sorry, this can't be allowed.
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In the books we never really find out just how powerful Gandalf has become with his metamorphasis from gray to white. We certainly find out that the multi-colored Saruman is no match for him, and he drives off the lesser ringwraiths during Faramir's retreat from Osgolith. He meets the king of the ringwraiths as the latter enters Minas Tirith over the remains of the main gate, but that confrontation is cut short by the breaking of dawn and the charge of the Rohan. We don't know how Gandalf would have faired -- but it wouldn't have been the instant pwnage depicted in the movie. At the same time, Pippin calls Gandalf to deal with the Steward's intent to burn himslef and Faramir. Gandalf expresses regret, seemingly aware that Theodan will die, and I think this suggests that he could have made a difference in dealing with the king of the ringwraiths.

To my mind, the real problems with the movie are not in the added or extended scenes. It's hard to understand why PJ decided Frodo should sent Sam away on the Stair. Even worse, the ring itself is supposed to be undone when Gollum loses his balance while he is dancing in celebration after recovering it. Making Gollum's fall a result of a (second) struggle with Frodo spoils the ending completely. The irony is that Gollum (by himself) accidentially destroys his precious (and himself) after Frodo can't bring himself to do so intentionally.

 
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Having EE in your title only makes me think of Electrical Engineering.
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You have just lost your geek card
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Aye. We are actaully real men:cool:
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Yet you're here on ATOT. 'Real' men don't post on internet message boards, they're too busy working on their old cars and having sex. :roll:
 
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
The 'Mouth of Sauron' bit was good - it was good in the book as well and I'm glad they added it into the extended version.
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the mouth of sauron part was lousy. the dialogue felt rushed (and certainly much was cut from the book) and the character was corny looking, with too large a helmet, a steed not fitting its own description and a mouth that was purposely oversized. He didnt have the title "mouth of sauron" because he had an enourmous mouth, but because he *spoke* for sauron.

Im not usually nitpicky about things in these movies that they changed or added, but this was one of my favorite parts of the book, and could have been done quite a bit better; I didnt like it at all.
 
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