Watched a documentary on Joseph Stalin

[zinfamous]

the real question is why did hitler not accept the offer of allegiance from stalin

with russia on his side they would have won the war.

remeber that he used the slavs as a propaganda scapegoat but that might be able to overcomed for the value of the allience

uh, he did. Hitler betrayed Stalin, remember?

 

[zinfamous]

Atheist.

and Hitler was a Christian.

boo-fucking-hoo.

 

[Geosurface]

Interesting that people think Hitler had designs on Britain, wanting to take it over, and ultimately the world.

Not even remotely based in reality. He actually desperately wished to be allies with Britain and the US and made repeated efforts to make that happen.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

and Hitler was a Christian.

boo-fucking-hoo.

Lol...just go on believing that lie as if it somehow makes you feel better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Religious views of Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical., sceptic father and a devout Catholic mother. Baptized and Confirmed as a child, he ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, he became disdainful of Christianity, but in power was prepared to delay clashes with the churches out of political considerations.[1][2][3][4][5] It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's long term aim was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[6][7] Hitler's architect Albert Speer believed he had "no real attachment" to Catholicism, but wrote that he had not formally left the Church prior to his suicide. The biographer John Toland noted Hitler's anticlericalism, but considered him still in "good standing" with that Church by 1941, while historians such as Ian Kershaw, Joachim Fest and Alan Bullock agree that Hitler was anti-Christian - a view evidenced by sources such as the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Speer, and the transcripts edited by Martin Bormann contained within Hitler's Table Talk.[8] Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity."[9]

 

[zinfamous]

Interesting that people think Hitler had designs on Britain, wanting to take it over, and ultimately the world.

Not even remotely based in reality. He actually desperately wished to be allies with Britain and the US and made repeated efforts to make that happen.

uh huh

 

[Geosurface]

uh huh

Feel free to research it.

 

[Theb]

No one ever gives Hitler credit for the millions of people he didn't kill.

 

[HeXen]

I bet if you just met and had a casual conversation about a general topic, greetings or whatever with Hitler and then Stalin, I bet Hitler wouldn't come off as bad.

 

[norseamd]

uh, he did. Hitler betrayed Stalin, remember?

i know there were some diplomatic stuff between the two. but hitler should of not betrayed stalin as the massive russia was too much to fight

 

[norseamd]

Lol...just go on believing that lie as if it somehow makes you feel better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio...f_Adolf_Hitler

doc savage fan actually has some point. there was talk of germanic paganism. hitler was not getting rid of christianity for the moment because it was easier just to get the people going with him. seems he distanced from the pagan religious enthusiasts. might not have been on his prioraty list

 

[zinfamous]

Feel free to research it.

you made a ridiculous claim. You provide evidence.

Consider the fact that Stalin and Hitler were allies, as both agreed that dividing Poland, the Baltics, and Eastern Europe into specific spheres of influence prior to invasion, would benefit both.

Obviously, that was not Hitler's true agenda.

How, then, could even the dimmest potato-spelling bulb ever reach the conclusion that Hitler desired to ally with the UK or the USA after that very public display of confidence between two allies? ....never-mind the planned invasions he had for the USA.

yeah, let's forget that.

 

[CanOWorms]

A lot of the European leaders of that era were monsters though people mostly just focus on Stalin and Hitler. Churchill himself was one of the greatest war criminals of human history, but we conveniently ignore his crimes because he was on our side.

Stalin, Hitler, and Churchill were maniacs.

 

[feralkid]

A lot of the European leaders of that era were monsters though people mostly just focus on Stalin and Hitler. Churchill himself was one of the greatest war criminals of human history, but we conveniently ignore his crimes because he was on our side.

Stalin, Hitler, and Churchill were maniacs.

Has anyone here not heard your anti-Churchill rants?

Oh, news flash: Stalin was on "our" side as well.

 

[CanOWorms]

Has anyone here not heard your anti-Churchill rants?

Yes.

Oh, news flash: Stalin was on "our" side as well.

Depends on how you define "our side."

 

[Zaap]

Depends on how you define "our side."

I'm guessing he means using the normal educated person's definition, not the history-ignorant-revise-it-anyway-loonbag definition.

 

[peonyu]

 

[Victorian Gray]

Interesting that people think Hitler had designs on Britain, wanting to take it over, and ultimately the world.

Not even remotely based in reality. He actually desperately wished to be allies with Britain and the US and made repeated efforts to make that happen.

Awww

 

[dainthomas]

No one ever gives Hitler credit for the millions of people he didn't kill.

Texashiker does. :biggrin: