watch out for remote controlled planes...terrorist threat?

[bentwookie]

I was just thinking today what if they used small remote controlled planes to deliver a chemical weapon.
Then on tim russert on cnbc just now they had the former director of the CIA talking about the exact same thing, saying they could use a remote and an aerosol can..

this kind of sh!t pisses me off...is vigilantism bad?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: bentwookie
I was just thinking today what if they used small remote controled planes to deliver a chemical weapon.
Then on tim russert on cnbc just now they had the former director of the CIA talking about the exact same thing, saying they could use and remote and an aerosol can..

is vigilantism bad?

There's nothing wrong with having a shoulder-mounted missile launcher in your home arsenal.....

 

[Colt45]

there are a lot of other ways to deliever chemicals.. why the heck worry about this?

remote control planes cant handle sh!t for payload anyways.. thats why theyre made out of balsa wood, etc.

besides.. you get like 10 grams of stuff spread per hour.. just not efficent.


who the heck flies a RC plane downtown or in suburbs anyways? dont you usually go to a park or out of town?

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: Colt45
there are a lot of other ways to deliever chemicals.. why the heck worry about this?

remote control planes cant handle sh!t for payload anyways.. thats why theyre made out of balsa wood, etc.

besides.. you get like 10 grams of stuff spread per hour.. just not efficent.


who the heck flies a RC plane downtown or in suburbs anyways? dont you usually go to a park or out of town?

Umm...yeah....the CIA hasn't had any luck with their remote controlled planes. The Predator doesn't carry Hellfire missles that haven't been used in combat

I remember reading a thread here at ATOT about Saddam Hussein having RC planes which could carry Biological Weapons. There was even a link to CNN about it.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

thats nuts!

1) the payload capacity of a plane would limit the amount of substance... they would need something very potent to do any real damage.

2) assuming the first point #1 is true, the range on RC is so limited that terrorist would likely be exposing themselves to whatever they are using.

3) How are you going to get a RC plane into a densely populated area? anywhere there are a lot of people (ie a stadium, a business complex, a church) would not be conducive to flying a RC plane (i think the takeoff would be the biggest problem, considering the extra weight of the contamenant).

4) all the tailgaters in the parking lot would kick their stupid little asses before they had the chance to get the plane off the ground.

 

[dahunan]

Sounds like we have some remote control plane experts in here.

Why can't the plan be navigated by way of cruise control after takeoff?

You think there aren't large remote control planes?

Think they wouldn't try it?

What about this insanity?

Police probe D.C., Md., blowgun attacks

and

Total Number of Injuries Reaches 19 in D.C., Prince George's

 

[Rallispec]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Sounds like we have some remote control plane experts in here.

Why can't the plan be navigated by way of cruise control after takeoff?

You think there aren't large remote control planes?

Think they wouldn't try it?

What about this insanity?

Police probe D.C., Md., blowgun attacks

and

Total Number of Injuries Reaches 19 in D.C., Prince George's

yeah man, seriously-- they have some big ass remote control planes that can carry some serious payloads.

 

[dahunan]

Plus, I believe that radar cannot detect small planes flying that low

Israel fears an attack by Palestinian Terrorist using these planes.

And the US has already been warned in the past that these planes can be used as methods for an attack.

 

[Rallispec]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Plus, I believe that radar cannot detect small planes flying that low

Israel fears an attack by Palestinian Terrorist using these planes.

And the US has already been warned in the past that these planes can be used as methods for an attack.

i think the US has used planes like this in the past, if not for attacks, at least for reconosaince. (sp?)

 

[Viper GTS]

Remote control aircraft would not be an effective means of executing a terrorist attack, but they could be used to kill an individual.

Viper GTS

 

[NeoPTLD]

theres remote controlled airplanes bigger than you can pick up with your hands.


a large remote controlled aircrafts farmers use to spray their crops can carry enough chemical or bio weapon to do some wacko damage.

 

[chansen]

RC aircraft are notoriously unstable, but anything's possible. Theres a group of modelers on Canada's east coast that are trying to get their craft to autopilot itself across the Atlantic. I've built a few, and a 10 lb payload is not out of the question, given an 8-10' wingspan and a decent gas or glow engine. There's actualy a law against flying a RC aircraft above 55 lbs, so terrorists hoping to carry a large payload would be frustrated by that limit.

And if you wanted to kill a person by RC aircraft, you would need explosives, an expert pilot, or Henry from my local flying field. He scares the heck out of me. I gotta believe there's a better way. Ask the NRA - they'll know.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: chansen
RC aircraft are notoriously unstable, but anything's possible. Theres a group of modelers on Canada's east coast that are trying to get their craft to autopilot itself across the Atlantic. I've built a few, and a 10 lb payload is not out of the question, given an 8-10' wingspan and a decent gas or glow engine. There's actualy a law against flying a RC aircraft above 55 lbs, so terrorists hoping to carry a large payload would be frustrated by that limit.

And if you wanted to kill a person by RC aircraft, you would need explosives, an expert pilot, or Henry from my local flying field. He scares the heck out of me. I gotta believe there's a better way. Ask the NRA - they'll know.

Somehow I don't think terrorists would lose much sleep over a 55 lb weight limit.

"Hey Osama, can you re-do that in carbon fiber? We need to shave another three oz to make this thing legal."

If I were going to do it, I would mount two video cameras in the front of the plane at the same distance my eyes are apart. I would broadcast two video signals & feed one into each eye of a pair of LCD shutter glasses. That way I wouldn't have to be (too) near it to see what I was doing.

Viper GTS

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Another evil instrument of terror. We need to ban them. We have to act pre-emptively While we are at it, RCc cars too. Could put nitro or something in one. Run it into a Walmart entrance. BOOM. I know this hasnt happened yet, but it could, and our national security is at stake after all.

 

[Kadarin]

Somehow I'd be more worried about a cropdusting biplane flying over a crowd in a stadium spraying some chemical or biological agent.

 

[bentwookie]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Somehow I'd be more worried about a cropdusting biplane flying over a crowd in a stadium spraying some chemical or biological agent.

yeah most small airports aren't even guarded or gated...My local news just walked right onto one in the middle of the day.

 

[chansen]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Somehow I don't think terrorists would lose much sleep over a 55 lb weight limit.

Ahh, you found the sarcasm. Very good.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Remote controlled planes? Aeresol cans? You've gotta be kidding me. What kind of damage can you do with an aeresol can? I'm sure anyone with a firearm could take one of these out of the sky from their porch. With one arm. While drinking a beer.

 

[SWirth86]

You ever noticed those little blimps at Hockey games? Yea, the ones that drop coupons/tickets. Watch out...

 

[stev0]

might as well watch out for RC cars/trucks/and boats... you do realize that the range that one can fly one of those things is very very short... if he was going to blow something up or spread some chemical, the chances of the operator getting hit to are good... would be a waste of time.

 

[bentwookie]

Originally posted by: stev0
might as well watch out for RC cars/trucks/and boats... you do realize that the range that one can fly one of those things is very very short... if he was going to blow something up or spread some chemical, the chances of the operator getting hit to are good... would be a waste of time.

I think the hijackers found that out.

and the aerosol cans were for biological threats not chemical...

 

[AvesPKS]

The Japanese tried this with hydrogen-filled balloons during WWII.