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Watch Live: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Issue Statement on Significant Development Regarding the Nuclear Agreement with Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qBt4tSCALA

Apr 30 2018 10:51:06 (EST) Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: e7b971 1248119
Define the terms of the Iran nuclear deal.
Does the agreement define & confine cease & desist ‘PRO’ to the republic of Iran?
What if Iran created a classified ‘satellite’ Nuclear facility in Northern Syria?
What if the program never ceased?
What other bad actors are possibly involved?
Did the U.S. know?
Where did the cash payments go?
How many planes delivered?
Did all planes land in same location?
Where did the U1 material end up?
Is this material traceable?
Yes.
Define cover.
What if U1 material ended up in Syria?
What would be the primary purpose?
SUM OF ALL FEARS.
In the movie, where did the material come from?
What country?
What would happen if Russia or another foreign state supplied Uranium to Iran/Syria?
WAR.
What does U1 provide?
Define cover.
Why did we strike Syria?
Why did we really strike Syria?
Define cover.
Patriots in control.
Q
 

K1052

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Bibi exposes historical nuclear weapons program that everybody knew Iran had.

So far I haven't seen anything but innuendo that Iran must have violated the JCPOA and hidden their program/lied. Which is a hilarious charge for Israel to make.
 

alien42

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So this is Netty backing Trump pulling out of the Iran deal?

he gave the presentation in English for a reason and there is no way he and trump didn't discuss this before hand and agree to it. imo, this is the biggest signal that trump is going to pull out of the Iran deal this time around.

so when does the war start?
 

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Unless we are going to war with Iran, I have no hope that we will do better to delay their nuclear development than the current deal, and I think any action involving ending our participation in the deal cannot help stabilize the region. Sadly, Iran has been on the path of westernization overall regardless of the extremism it still contains. I think we've already seriously impeded that.
 
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Unless we are going to war with Iran, I have no hope that we will do better to delay their nuclear development than the current deal, and I think any action involving ending our participation in the deal will help stabilize the region. Sadly, Iran has been on the path of westernization overall regardless of the extremism it still contains. I think we've already seriously impeded that.


I don't see a war, but I have all the medical reasons lined up for my kids not to be drafted. I don't even have to resort to heel spurs.
 

K1052

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he gave the presentation in English for a reason and there is no way he and trump didn't discuss this before hand and agree to it. imo, this is the biggest signal that trump is going to pull out of the Iran deal this time around.

so when does the war start?

What next is an open question I think. Trump thinks the Iranians will come crawling back. The Iran hawks want to do them Iraq 2.0 this time around.

To assume there is any actual plan does not fit with the history of this administration.
 

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he gave the presentation in English for a reason and there is no way he and trump didn't discuss this before hand and agree to it. imo, this is the biggest signal that trump is going to pull out of the Iran deal this time around.

so when does the war start?
Bibi and Trump wouldn't dare attack Iran.


The war already started back in 2013. This is all about escalating in Syria. Bibi wants Syria to remain a Mad Max-style post apocalyptic wasteland. Currently Assad is winning the war and Bibi wants to turn this around, but he doesn't want to spend any Israeli money or lives. So the objective is to convince the US to go fight "Iran"... in Syria. The way they "fight Iran" is by fighting Assad (this is what Bibi actually wants).


Tearing up the Iran deal is just a precursor to "getting Iran out of Syria".
 

K1052

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Well this will be a great signal to send to NK right before sitting down with them...

I think I like this one better:

President Trump’s new national security adviser, John Bolton, floated the idea of using the “Libya model” to denuclearize the Korean peninsula on Sunday, despite the fact that North Korea has previously cited Libya’s disarmament and subsequent destabilization as a reason to distrust the U.S.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-considering-libya-model-for-north-korea.html
 

FIVR

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I mean Bibi would love it if we attacked Iran... but that will never happen. It would cost too much money and be too risky. Maybe we bomb them or launch more retarded cruise missiles but boots not he ground isn't an option. It's not even really an option in Syria but Bibi really really wants the US marine core to take Damascus.
 

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Watch Live: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to Issue Statement on Significant Development Regarding the Nuclear Agreement with Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qBt4tSCALA

Apr 30 2018 10:51:06 (EST) Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: e7b971 1248119
Define the terms of the Iran nuclear deal.
Does the agreement define & confine cease & desist ‘PRO’ to the republic of Iran?
What if Iran created a classified ‘satellite’ Nuclear facility in Northern Syria?
What if the program never ceased?
What other bad actors are possibly involved?
Did the U.S. know?
Where did the cash payments go?
How many planes delivered?
Did all planes land in same location?
Where did the U1 material end up?
Is this material traceable?
Yes.
Define cover.
What if U1 material ended up in Syria?
What would be the primary purpose?
SUM OF ALL FEARS.
In the movie, where did the material come from?
What country?
What would happen if Russia or another foreign state supplied Uranium to Iran/Syria?
WAR.
What does U1 provide?
Define cover.
Why did we strike Syria?
Why did we really strike Syria?
Define cover.
Patriots in control.
Q

Another Q lover....great
 

Jhhnn

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It's just Bibi's usual fear & hate mongering.

The most important thing to remember is that nuclear weapons require weapons grade enriched uranium or plutonium. The IAEA assures us that Iran isn't making any even though they have the capability to do so. The rest of it is peripheral. Of course they kept the records of past efforts just like the US kept all the research we did on chemical weapons. That's a no-brainer.

The IAEA obviously can't say the same wrt Israeli nuclear efforts-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Nuclear_Research_Center
 

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If there is any truth to Netanyahu's allegations, the right thing to do would be to stick within the framework of the deal. We could use its structure to investigate if there really is an active nuclear program, and under the structure of the deal if they have violated it we can re-institute sanctions. If that is insufficient, then we ought to go to the signatories of the agreement (China, France, Russia, UK, Germany, EU) and attempt a coordinated action. Only if there was solid evidence that investigation or response within the framework of the agreement was insufficient and that other signatories failed to support sufficient action should we do anything further.

Netanyahu knows this. He's trying to buddy up with Trump by playing Israel and the US vs. Iran and cutting out all the other parties (which, incidentally, includes the entire UN security council). If Trump takes the bait, we are risking losing the support of our allies and further destabilization of the Middle East.
 

K1052

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If there is any truth to Netanyahu's allegations, the right thing to do would be to stick within the framework of the deal. We could use its structure to investigate if there really is an active nuclear program, and under the structure of the deal if they have violated it we can re-institute sanctions. If that is insufficient, then we ought to go to the signatories of the agreement (China, France, Russia, UK, Germany, EU) and attempt a coordinated action. Only if there was solid evidence that investigation or response within the framework of the agreement was insufficient and that other signatories failed to support sufficient action should we do anything further.

Netanyahu knows this. He's trying to buddy up with Trump by playing Israel and the US vs. Iran and cutting out all the other parties (which, incidentally, includes the entire UN security council). If Trump takes the bait, we are risking losing the support of our allies and further destabilization of the Middle East.

Trump is going to kill this because Obama did it and for no other reason. If Obama said oxygen was good he'd try to rid the planet of it, he's that obsessed.

There is no strategy, no coalition building to win more concessions from Iran on other issues, no long term regional thinking about what the consequences might be of propelling Iran into building nukes. None of that. Trump is gambling with the futures of millions for his own vanity and narcissism.
 
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HomerJS

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Pomeo's own testimony back in early contradicts Bibi showing he is full of shit.

Pompeo was asked if Iran is complying to the JCPOA, here is his answer
He then asked Pompeo whether he had seen any evidence that Iran had not complied with its commitments under the JCPOA. Pompeo’s response was clear: “With the information I have been provided, I have seen no evidence they are not in compliance today.”

Sen Udall answer the question about the so called "sunset clauses". Here is the answer
Udall pointed out that in addition to its commitments under the JCPOA, Iran is also a signatory to the NPT and abides by the IAEA Additional Protocol, the commitments of which Iran has agreed to in perpetuity.

Also in his testimony Pompeo made the surprising claim
to deflect the concern about a loss of economic leverage in the face of a proliferation risk, Pompeo took a surprising tact, claiming “Iran wasn’t racing to a weapon before the deal, there is no indication that I am aware of that if the deal no longer existed that they would immediately turn to racing to create a nuclear weapon.”

So Iran in complying. So says the IAEA and all the signatories of the JCPOA. Iran was in no rush to build nukes even before the agreement and there are agreements that cover Iran even after the 10 years.

So why should we believe Bibi and Trump over the rest of the world involved in this???


https://www.bourseandbazaar.com/art...y-makes-strong-case-for-the-iran-nuclear-deal
 

UNCjigga

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White House already issued a retraction--tried to blame it on a 'typo' but it was an obvious lie to give Trump cover for pulling out of the deal.

John Bolton is up to his old yellowcake from Niger tricks again.
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So this is Netty backing Trump pulling out of the Iran deal?

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. The question is, what is Turmp giving up to Israel for it.

I don't see a war, but I have all the medical reasons lined up for my kids not to be drafted. I don't even have to resort to heel spurs.

I do, because Turmp is going to be desperate for something to distract from the investigations into him. If he gets Congress to vote in favor of declaring war, they can probably even use that to suspend the investigation, citing national security during war time or some nonsense. Considering the shit they pulled over the Supreme Court nomination, I would fully expect them to declare that during war time they can't even hold elections due to national security concerns.

I think Bolton sold Turmp on being able to keep his skin clean. After all, he kept Bush and his cronies, even when there was clear evidence that they lied and forced the intelligence community to support their claims. And I think that is the key, Turmp sees this as an opportunity to either get them onboard with him, or for them to take the fall (much like they pretty much ended up doing for Bush's shenanigans), so he can basically smear them for the impending showdown over the Russian investigations, if they don't play ball.


Holy fuck, I knew Bolton was an idiot, but wow, he views the Libyan model as something to aspire to. I have to wonder how he'd square that away with Turmp though, as even Obama admits that how he handled Libya was a mistake. Who am I kidding, he can just call it some stupid name, say its the total opposite of what it is, and say that Obama hated it (he'll conveniently ignore that Obama still went with it at the behest of our European allies and some of our military advisers). Hell, maybe he'd even say "see Obama thinks its a stupid thing to do!"
 
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So this is all being viewed as a big "meh" from the allied community. Seems to be a case of "tell us something we didn't know" Bibi.
 

HomerJS

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White House already issued a retraction--tried to blame it on a 'typo' but it was an obvious lie to give Trump cover for pulling out of the deal.

John Bolton is up to his old yellowcake from Niger tricks again.
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Did we find out who signed off on the release of the first statement using the word "has"? Ala Iraq, statement was designed to be used as a predicate for war with Iran. Manatee would not have not released it without approval.