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ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Evan
I didn't know ProfJohn had his own blog. Congrats.
Why are you bringing me into this when I haven't even posted in this thread?

Are you incapable of developing an intelligent thought and offering it to the group without having to insult other forum members?
 

ProfJohn

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1. We need to see the 'attached' chart to figure out what the hell they are talking about. I am sure their numbers are legit, but are most likely cherry picked to make their point.

2. They would have been better off comparing Obama's approval numbers to people's opinion of his various policies. There you will see a huge disconnect. The American people still want a smaller government and Obama is pushing the exact opposite. Eventually that will come back to bite him.
 

bbdub333

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot

he actually had a source and they keep tabs on various polls on a big board somewhere, not sure what the poll source was there.

I'd really like to know what this mystery source is... especially when it seemingly contradicts every other opinion poll in the nation.

Anyways said professor is by no means a 'typical college professor' or 'liberal nutjob acedemic' whatever that's supposed to mean. Nice ad hominem there.

'Confederate South'? 90% approval in New England? Sounds like a Poly-Sci professor with an agenda. Color me surprised.

surveyusa looks like a reputable site :roll:

Explain your comments. Why is this national, widely-used survey company less reputable than a Poly-Sci professor with a mystery source on a 'big board' somewhere? What polls is he using? What questions are being asked? Are all the poll questions the same in each instance? How many people are being surveyed in each state?

I've posted facts that can be examined and taken for what they are. Dispute that.

 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Presidential Approval Rating at 100 Days

Dwight D. Eisenhower . . . . . 73%
John Kennedy . . . . . . . . . . . 83%
Richard Nixon . . . . . . . . . . . .62%
Jimmy Carter . . . . . . . . . . . .63%
Ronald Reagan . . . . . . . . . . .68%
George Bush . . . . . . . . . . . . 56%
William J. Clinton . . . . . . . . . 55%
George W. Bush. . . . . . . . . . 62%





Ooops --- Linkage

Just getting caught up on this thread. That is an interesting set of data.

According to the site, only 2 previous Presidents have seen their approval numbers drop at the 100 day mark - Carter and Clinton. Obama makes it 3. Reagan enjoyed the biggest jump at 17 points.

Not sure (might be hard to find some numbers) but I'll guess that Reagan got a really nice bump from the Hinikley assassination attempt at the end of March, 1981.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
1. We need to see the 'attached' chart to figure out what the hell they are talking about. I am sure their numbers are legit, but are most likely cherry picked to make their point.

2. They would have been better off comparing Obama's approval numbers to people's opinion of his various policies. There you will see a huge disconnect. The American people still want a smaller government and Obama is pushing the exact opposite. Eventually that will come back to bite him.

1. I've linked numerous Gallup polls, including the one that it cites for George W Bush. (for some reason that post of mine isn't showing up right now? wth?) Not only does not a single one support the editorial's contention, but they actually show the exact opposite. The WT has been straight out busted for comparing the results of one poll question with the results of a completely different one and then lying about the results.

2. The American people haven't actually wanted a smaller government in a very very long time. Certainly not at any time in our lifetimes. We do like to pay lip service to it though.
 

bbdub333

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Originally posted by: eskimospy

2. The American people haven't actually wanted a smaller government in a very very long time. Certainly not at any time in our lifetimes. We do like to pay lip service to it though.

They also keep electing corrupt, lying, dishonest politicians... even though everyone pays lips service to not wanting this.

I guess the American people *want* corrupt, lying, dishonest politicians. No other explanation.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: bbdub333
Originally posted by: eskimospy

2. The American people haven't actually wanted a smaller government in a very very long time. Certainly not at any time in our lifetimes. We do like to pay lip service to it though.

They also keep electing corrupt, lying, dishonest politicians... even though everyone pays lips service to not wanting this.

I guess the American people *want* corrupt, lying, dishonest politicians. No other explanation.

Except when polled on wanting corrupt, lying, dishonest politicians I'm going to guess people say they don't want them.

When polled about individual aspects of larger government, universal healthcare, larger military, etc, Americans overwhelmingly support these massive expansions of government, but then later say they still want smaller government.