Was Timothy McVeigh a Christian Terrorist

[dahunan]

I have heard that he was

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Have you been drinking tonight?

 

[ntdz]

He was Christian, and a terrorist. He, however, didn't commit terrorism based on his religion or justify it through his religion.

/End Thread

 

[sisq0kidd]

Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

We have a winner.. ^^^ This is the dirty double standard

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

We have a winner.. ^^^ This is the dirty double standard

Not really... When muslims crashed planes into the WTC, other muslims all over the world celebrated.

When "christians" commit acts of violence, other christians condemn the action.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

We have a winner.. ^^^ This is the dirty double standard

Not really... When muslims crashed planes into the WTC, other muslims all over the world celebrated.

When "christians" commit acts of violence, other christians condemn the action.

Really? All Muslims celebrated?
Amazing.
Majority? Still amazing.

Lack of education/understanding and common sense.

I'm sure when U.S troops die some Americans cheer too. In fact there is proof of it on these boards. Therefore, all Americans cheer their own soldier's deaths.

Your entire post makes no sense at all or you don't know what it is you are talking about.
You are suggesting NO Muslims spoke out against the violence.

My head hurts all of a sudden witht he lack of knowledge on this board.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

We have a winner.. ^^^ This is the dirty double standard

Not really... When muslims crashed planes into the WTC, other muslims all over the world celebrated.

When "christians" commit acts of violence, other christians condemn the action.

Really? All Muslims celebrated?
Amazing.
Majority? Still amazing.

Lack of education/understanding and common sense.


I'm sure when U.S troops die some Americans cheer too. In fact there is proof of it on these boards. Therefore, all Americans cheer their own soldier's deaths.

Reading comprehension FTW!!!!

Read my post... I said muslims all over the world celebrated. I didn't say ALL muslims. I didn't even say a majority of muslims. Don't put words in my mouth.

But look at the reactions... Islamic terrorism... Any denounciations? *crickets*
"Christian" abortion clinic bombers... Christian leaders are the first to step forward and denounce the act.

It's an interesting contrast.

 

[Aimster]

You lack the ability to write what is it you are trying to prove.
Do not argue with someone who is much more education than you for you will be put in your place.

You said when Christians commit violence that Christians condemn the violence. You left out the part about Muslims condemning the violence. Therefore, suggesting that all Muslims favor the violence. Obviously your point was that all Christians step out and go against Christian violence so you were also using the same meaning towards Muslims.

For you information, almost all if not all Muslim nations condemned the violence. Show me one Muslim nation who actually favored the attacks.

Let me guess. You saw the video of the Palestinians dancing in the streets which was prior to 9-11 and you think Muslims go around dancing in the street. Even if all Palestinians went dancing on the street the percentage of Muslims dancing on the street would be less than .0005%.

Want pictures of Iranians in Iran holding a candlelight walk in memory of those lost on 9-11?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

what.. the muslim terrorists reprisents over one billion people?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

We have a winner.. ^^^ This is the dirty double standard

Not really... When muslims crashed planes into the WTC, other muslims all over the world celebrated.

When "christians" commit acts of violence, other christians condemn the action.

Engage in hyperbole much? Oh yeah. You do.


:roll:

 

[StormRider]

Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist who happened to be Christian.

I lived and work in an area where the Washington DC sniper struck. The sniper was a Muslim -- and yet in this case no one thought it was a "Islamic terrorist" that struck -- just some crazy guy. Why? Because he didn't do what he did in the name of Islam.

bin Laden is an Islamic Terrorist. What he does, he does in the name of Islam. That is why he is an Islamic Terrorist. And that is why a lot of people have a poor opinion of Islam in this day and age. There are too many bin Ladens running around in the world.

Edit: And before I forget -- Merry Christmas, everybody!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

No, if he was a terrorist he was not Christian. There is no statement by Christ saying "go ye into the would and blow stuff up".

They may SAY they are, you may WANT to be for some point, but they are not.s

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

We have a winner.. ^^^ This is the dirty double standard

Not really... When muslims crashed planes into the WTC, other muslims all over the world celebrated.

When "christians" commit acts of violence, other christians condemn the action.

You know for a fact that some Christians weren't cheering when abortion clinics got bombed by Rudolph?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
No, if he was a terrorist he was not Christian. There is no statement by Christ saying "go ye into the would and blow stuff up".

They may SAY they are, you may WANT to be for some point, but they are not.s

I think that's the point of the OP. Despite the fact that "some" terrorists justify their actions by using their alleged faith in Islam, others would say they are not following the tenets of the religion by commiting acts of terrorism.


There's a lot of stuff that Jesus did NOT say but "Christians" treat as integral aspects of Christianity. On the flipside, there are concepts he explicitly endorsed that are essentially ignored by many "Christians."

For a quick lesson on the latter; read Matthew 19:16-26, Mark 10:17-27, and Luke 18:18-27.

 

[rchiu]

Even though Timothy McVeigh was a Christian, he committed terrorism for political reason, and for that reason, he is not a Christian Terrorist.

Like Timothy McVeigh, Al Qaeda is comitting Terrorism for political reasons but unfortunately politicians don't want you to know that their political games caused all the terrorism around the world. So people who don't have the intelligence to understand the complex political issues in the ME or who choose to listen to the politicians instead of think for themselves, think Al Qaeda, or worse, the Muslim as a whole, commit terrorism for religious reasons.

 

[tommywishbone]

McVeigh was pissed-off at the Man for killing all those people in Waco and mad enough to do something about it. And that's as simple as it gets. No Waco... No Oklahoma City.

 

[mjh]

Originally posted by: StormRider
bin Laden is an Islamic Terrorist. What he does, he does in the name of Islam. That is why he is an Islamic Terrorist. And that is why a lot of people have a poor opinion of Islam in this day and age. There are too many bin Ladens running around in the world.

Edit: And before I forget -- Merry Christmas, everybody!

Intolerance is a very serious issue in America.

Happy holidays!

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
McVeigh was pissed-off at the Man for killing all those people in Waco and mad enough to do something about it. And that's as simple as it gets. No Waco... No Oklahoma City.

Are you so sure about that? McVeigh used Waco as one of his justifications, but easily could have made up another reason if Waco never occurred.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Christian terrorists bombed abortion clinics, shot doctors, and made death threats to Mike Schiavo (Terri Schaivo's husband). They stated they acted in Gods name, based on their religious beliefs.

Show me any evidence that McVeigh's agenda was religious instead of secular, then it might make sense to call him a Christian terrorist, until then he's just a secular terrorist who happens to call himself a Christian.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Doesn't matter as Christian terrorists aren't inline with typical Christian thought whereas Muslim terrorists somehow represent the whole Muslim population.

Timothy McVeigh represents as much of the majority of Christians as Al Qaeda represents the majority of Muslims. Those who consider mass killing as a valid means of expression are whackos, regardless of which banner they disgrace. :|

 

[CQuinn]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
McVeigh was pissed-off at the Man for killing all those people in Waco and mad enough to do something about it. And that's as simple as it gets. No Waco... No Oklahoma City.

Ruby Ridge,
Posse Comitatus,
The Turner diaries,
etc...

McVeigh probably had Waco as a trigger event, but the beliefs that led to his
actions are not so simple to point to one place and time as the cause.

He also wore a shirt that had the quote: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.", but that does not make him a
Jeffersonian Terrorist.

 

[Kibbo86]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

But look at the reactions... Islamic terrorism... Any denounciations? *crickets*
It's an interesting contrast.

Have you ever looked to see what muslim leaders say about terror attacks?

Check out my post on the second page in this topic.

Just because Fox doesn't report it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

[judasmachine]

that guy who blew up those abortion clinics were. army of god or some crap like that.

edit: Eric Rudolph

 

[BlancoNino]

Yeah I agree he was a christian and a terrorist, but the two weren't intertwined. I highly doubt the name Timothy Mcveigh became a popular first and middle name for christians throughout the world after the bombing the same way the name Osama skyrocketed for muslim babies after 9/11.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Yeah I agree he was a christian and a terrorist, but the two weren't intertwined. I highly doubt the name Timothy Mcveigh became a popular first and middle name for christians throughout the world after the bombing the same way the name Osama skyrocketed for muslim babies after 9/11.

Any proof to back up your claim there? Given your short posting history up here and other wild-ass claims, I'm assuming not.