Was this even a crime?

[bshole]

I am unsure what the actual crime was here. She did not harm anybody. I am unaware of her expounding an intention to harm anybody. She was arrested long before ISIS was cutting off the heads of Americans.

Shannon Maureen Conley's plan to join ISIS and serve as a nurse at a jihadist camp ended Wednesday with a guilty plea to a terror charge in a Colorado federal court.

Conley, 19, was arrested at Denver International Airport in April as she was about to embark on a journey to Germany and eventually to an ISIS camp near the Turkish border. She told investigators that she was going to Turkey to await word from her suitor, identified in court documents as Yousr Mouelhi, an ISIS member she met on the Internet, whom she planned to marry.

Conley, a convert to Islam who wore a blue and white striped jail uniform and a traditional Muslim headscarf, appeared before a federal judge Wednesday and pleaded guilty to charge of conspiracy to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization.

A certified nurse aide, Conley faces a maximum penalty of five years in federal prison and up to a $250,000 fine.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/justice/colorado-jihadist-guilty-plea/?hpt=ju_c2

 

[cabri]

Intent was to aid/abet a terrorist organization as defined by the US government.

Is that so difficult to figure out

 

[bshole]

Intent was to aid/abet a terrorist organization as defined by the US government.

Is that so difficult to figure out

Um about that..... our government swaps labels so fast it is difficult to keep up. Yesterday's freedom fighter receiving our tax dollars and weapons is tomorrow's terrorist! When are we going to prosecute government officials and imprison them for funding "freedom fighters" who turn into "terrorists"?! Jesus, ISIS is swimming in supplies and material that originated from the United States government. Who in the United States government is being prosecuted for it?

 

[boomerang]

Jesus, ISIS is swimming in supplies and material that originated from the United States government. Who in the United States government is being prosecuted for it?

Let's start at the top. You in?

 

[bshole]

Let's start at the top. You in?

Ah hell ya.... Drag that traitor Bush and his croney Cheney to prison in chains!

 

[unclefred]

Ah hell ya.... Drag that traitor Bush and his croney Cheney to prison in chains!

Hmmmm...wasn't it the current blacker Bush that armed and supported the rebels first against Libya and then Syria? He has far out bushed Bush on every level.

 

[Greenman]

I wonder how ugly she is that the only guy she could hook up with on the web was a Muslim terrorist?

 

[drebo]

Home of the free...

At least until you do something with which we don't agree.

The US Government is a farce. Start at the top. End it now.

 

[Texashiker]

Providing aid and comfort to the enemy is an act of treason.

She should be hung.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

 

[Atreus21]

I wonder how ugly she is that the only guy she could hook up with on the web was a Muslim terrorist?

However ugly she is, we sure won't be able to tell after she converts.

 

[Greenman]

However ugly she is, we sure won't be able to tell after she converts.

I wonder if that's what Burkas are all about? Just a slick way of pawning off your butt ugly daughter on some unsuspecting goat herder. Once he peels her down and has seen the goods he can't return her. That's probably why they have 8 or 10 wives, they keep looking for a good one.

 

[Attic]

Um about that..... our government swaps labels so fast it is difficult to keep up. Yesterday's freedom fighter receiving our tax dollars and weapons is tomorrow's terrorist! When are we going to prosecute government officials and imprison them for funding "freedom fighters" who turn into "terrorists"?! Jesus, ISIS is swimming in supplies and material that originated from the United States government. Who in the United States government is being prosecuted for it?

Winner winner chicken dinner. Selective application of the rules is why government officials will remain secure and safe from the moving target they impose on others. This is the key, that selective application of the rules is where the real power is imposed by the worst kind of people. The selective application of law does not occur by chance, it's intent is part of the power structures power. Spells trouble for the folks smart enough to see the ramifications, and it clearly is trouble for everybody.

Redefining and/or giving different names to labels in order to use it against someone, well cheap parlor trick and it works. Simple, define someone into the enemy and take em out with powers granted to go after enemies. "Terrorist" is a nice catch all, then just define someones actions (regardless of intent or truth or anything reasonable) into supporting terrorism... and win. ie) the person said "x" or did "y" and we believe this to support TERRORISM. Define "x" or "y" as necesary to achieve end goal even if "x" or "y" were previously not anything support Terrorism.

Next step.... those supporting "xyz" or who are "xyz" (terrorism/terrorist now, who knows what next) can be taken out. Key, anybody can be defined into "xyz" by redefining what constitutes "xyz" at a moments notice.

 

[Genx87]

Um about that..... our government swaps labels so fast it is difficult to keep up. Yesterday's freedom fighter receiving our tax dollars and weapons is tomorrow's terrorist! When are we going to prosecute government officials and imprison them for funding "freedom fighters" who turn into "terrorists"?! Jesus, ISIS is swimming in supplies and material that originated from the United States government. Who in the United States government is being prosecuted for it?

I nominate John McCain. Weren't those pictures of him in Syria with ISIS leadership? Even if they weren't he has done enough meddling there to surely have crossed paths with the wrong people. Making him worthy of arrest and trial.

 

[werepossum]

Um about that..... our government swaps labels so fast it is difficult to keep up. Yesterday's freedom fighter receiving our tax dollars and weapons is tomorrow's terrorist! When are we going to prosecute government officials and imprison them for funding "freedom fighters" who turn into "terrorists"?! Jesus, ISIS is swimming in supplies and material that originated from the United States government. Who in the United States government is being prosecuted for it?

Obama armed ISIS, and with the intent of creating a more sane Middle East. This backfired, of course - it almost always does - but the intent was noble and the act was legal. (I'm assuming here, but certainly both parties do it.) By contrast, this two-bagger* made the decision to work for an organization already identified as a terrorist organization. By way of comparison, it's all right to sell someone a weapon before he's a criminal, but it's not alright to help him after he's on the run.

I wonder if that's what Burkas are all about? Just a slick way of pawning off your butt ugly daughter on some unsuspecting goat herder. Once he peels her down and has seen the goods he can't return her. That's probably why they have 8 or 10 wives, they keep looking for a good one.

That is SO wrong. And SO funny. And probably SO accurate.

* Not that I think she is particularly unattractive. I'm just going by her own opinion that she should have one bag over her body and one over her head.

EDIT: I'm also hoping that if we can only keep her in prison for five years, we at least yank her citizenship and kick her ass out.

 

[Greenman]

Obama armed ISIS, and with the intent of creating a more sane Middle East. This backfired, of course - it almost always does - but the intent was noble and the act was legal. (I'm assuming here, but certainly both parties do it.) By contrast, this two-bagger* made the decision to work for an organization already identified as a terrorist organization. By way of comparison, it's all right to sell someone a weapon before he's a criminal, but it's not alright to help him after he's on the run.


That is SO wrong. And SO funny. And probably SO accurate.

* Not that I think she is particularly unattractive. I'm just going by her own opinion that she should have one bag over her body and one over her head.

EDIT: I'm also hoping that if we can only keep her in prison for five years, we at least yank her citizenship and kick her ass out.

Seriously, she's probably just a stupid kid that drank the koolaid and think's she's doing the right thing. A year in jail would be enough for her to see how the other half live.

 

[Oldgamer]

I am unsure what the actual crime was here. She did not harm anybody. I am unaware of her expounding an intention to harm anybody. She was arrested long before ISIS was cutting off the heads of Americans.



http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/10/justice/colorado-jihadist-guilty-plea/?hpt=ju_c2

Isn't this the same gal who was tweeting that she was looking forward to the terror that she and her cohorts were going to inflict on others? I seem to remember she was tweeting about how wonderful it was going to be to kill and terrorize people. They took her twitter account down but it was in the news a few days back.

 

[MongGrel]

Aiding a terrorist organization for starters.

I hope they do revoke anyone going over there providing aid does get their citizenship revoked.

In the works atm I believe.

I don't think they've released the BUFFS yet, but have authorized air strikes outside of just support.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cabri
Intent was to aid/abet a terrorist organization as defined by the US government.

Is that so difficult to figure out

Um about that..... our government swaps labels so fast it is difficult to keep up. Yesterday's freedom fighter receiving our tax dollars and weapons is tomorrow's terrorist! When are we going to prosecute government officials and imprison them for funding "freedom fighters" who turn into "terrorists"?! Jesus, ISIS is swimming in supplies and material that originated from the United States government. Who in the United States government is being prosecuted for it?

YES it is hard for him to understand!!

 

[brianmanahan]

the OP is a crime

 

[DrPizza]

Oh wow! A certified nurse's aide! She's trained in bathing them and providing other personal care.
Can't do medications. Can't do care plans. Can't do assessments. The education to be a cna over here is sufficient to be a nurse over there?

 

[Double Trouble]

It really isn't that hard to figure out. She tried to join a terrorist organization that brutalizes civilians, and she bragged about wanting to inflict terror on innocents. I can't think of a much clearer example of someone who wants to aid the enemy. 5 years isn't nearly enough, a swift bullet to the head would be the punishment if it were up to me, she's always going to be a danger to sane people. Alas, it is not up to me, so 5 years in jail will have to do.

 

[Victorian Gray]

It really isn't that hard to figure out. She tried to join a terrorist organization that brutalizes civilians, and she bragged about wanting to inflict terror on innocents. I can't think of a much clearer example of someone who wants to aid the enemy. 5 years isn't nearly enough, a swift bullet to the head would be the punishment if it were up to me, she's always going to be a danger to sane people. Alas, it is not up to me, so 5 years in jail will have to do.

First bolded, when did she do this?

Second bolded, yes, the death penalty for thought crimes seems appropriate.

 

[Nebor]

More from Australia.

Here's hoping they catch a JDAM.

 

[drebo]

Providing aid and comfort to the enemy is an act of treason.

She should be hung.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

I didn't know that Congress had declared war on Turkey.

 

[Zorkorist]

This is very "Thought Police"

The Government has outlawed almost everything, and they spend money like crazy, so yes, they will be watching you.

"Thought Police."

-John