I was very young at that time, but I do remember that Mike Tyson was accused of rape, and sentenced to jail. Were people speculating about that event too, like they are now? Were there die hard fans who refused to accept it, and just went on and on how Mike could get any girl he wanted?
Was there just as much speculation when Mike Tyson was accused of rape?
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I don't think anyone doubted Tyson did it. He's mentally retarded, very misogynistic, and strong enoguh to make pretty much anyone else do whatever he wants.
Yeah, he probably did rape that woman. I liked the MadTV sketch with Ares Spears making fun of Tyson with the Tyson Grill.
I would say that just about any athelete (except jockeys) are strong enough to make anyone do whatever they want.
Why would you say that? I can understand where you are coming from, but I don't think I can agree with such a radical idea.
Innocent until proven guilty
I've been unable to find info on how it was proven that Tyson did it. Did he hang himself, or what?
I've been unable to find info on how it was proven that Tyson did it. Did he hang himself, or what?
My recollection is that even given Tyson's reputation as a bully there was a lot of the same kind of speculation.
Hahah I am at the beach (it is raining heavily) so I am on dialup and I hit enter with a blank post, took me a few minutes to correct the problem lol.
given that Tyson says he'll eat babies, has eaten a piece of Evander Holyfield, and says "Prozac is what's keeping me from killin' y'all"
and the woman he did it to was like Miss USA or something, she could get any guy she wants. tyson is also the indirect reason tupac was killed...
and the woman he did it to was like Miss USA or something, she could get any guy she wants. tyson is also the indirect reason tupac was killed...
mike tyson is actually a victim of his success - i doubt he actually raped the girl - prob the girl realized with his background and job that she would win - she was right
Would it be possible to get the transcript of the "Desiree Washington" VS "Mike Tyson" trial?
Does anybody know specifically how they managed to convict him?
Does anybody know specifically how they managed to convict him?
I thought the Tyson case was a big gray area. From what I remember she went to his room in a nightgown late at night. That's no excuse for rape, but it sure made it seem like was looking for sex.
Tysons handlers hired him an incompetent lawyer. They had zero evidence of rape. All they had was her claims. They got the court to bar testimony of the womens friends, which would have cleared Tyson. If Tyson had a competent lawyer, the trial would have been dismissed. Im not a Tyson apologist, but he got railroaded, and any legal expert that has reviewed the case will tell you that.
She went to his hotal room wearing a "sexy nightgown" at 3am to give him milk and cookies. The prosecution presented zero physical evidence of rape(no semen, no vaginal trauma, no external injuries, no ripped clothing, etc) at trial, it was all her word. Because of Mike Tysons image at the time he was convicted, because of his incompetent lawyer. In reality the case should have been dismissed, or overturned.
Now to add the Kobe Bryant case into the mix, the prosecution allegedly/reportedly has semen/dna evidence, internal trauma, external injuries, and ripped clothing. And people say he didnt do it, while Mike Tyson there was none of that, and purely her word vs his, and people say Tyson did it. And they continue to say he rapes other women, each time some women tries to extort him. There has never been a single shred of evidence Mike Tyson has raped someone. Yes he was convicted, so have other men that were later cleared of convictions while serving time, most had cases similar to Tysons(no evidence, no actual witness, her word vs his, incompetent lawyers, irregular rulings). The Tyson case is NOT similar to the Bryant case in any other form except they were both celebs.
I agree. It is kind of wierd. If Tyson claims he didn't rape that girl 1 of 2 things is possible. #1. He didn't rape her or #2. In his mind he honestly believes he didn't rape her. IF you saw the Beyond the Glory on the Fox Sports Net with Tyson you would probably agree. I think that guy is seriously messed up but I don't believe he is a liar, I mean he is honest when he says he hates everyone and wants to eat children why would he lie about this rape even after he has served his sentence?
Tyson was dumb and young. His handlers were the ones that hired the lawyer. As to why? IMHO almost everyone that has surrounded Tyson his entire life, never cared about him, but only their personal interests, the exception is Tyson original trainer. My guess is they already had their money, and didnt really care. As an example Don King did(as he has with other fighters) swindle Tyson out of over $100million through out their buisness relationship.
Her word against his is enough to convict somebody of rape? 
I'd like to see the transcript. Is that not public record? I can't believe it can't be found online. Damn, I have to go make dinner, or I'd flippin' find it right now...
I'd like to see the transcript. Is that not public record? I can't believe it can't be found online. Damn, I have to go make dinner, or I'd flippin' find it right now...
Washingtons story was this.
She and Tyson were on his bed making out, Tyson wanted to go further she told him she was spotting. Tyson said he didnt care. At this point she went to the bathroom and removed her feminine hygene product and left it on the sink for later use, and came out of the bathroom. She then said Tyson raped her.
This is what else happened, if I can recall correctly.
The Judge in the case was a rape prosecutor before coming a judge. She barred testimoney of Washington's friends(the irregular ruling), and that would have "allegedly" cleared Tyson, as Washington, allegedly, atleast according to her friends, told her friends she had sex with Tyson.
She and Tyson were on his bed making out, Tyson wanted to go further she told him she was spotting. Tyson said he didnt care. At this point she went to the bathroom and removed her feminine hygene product and left it on the sink for later use, and came out of the bathroom. She then said Tyson raped her.
This is what else happened, if I can recall correctly.
The Judge in the case was a rape prosecutor before coming a judge. She barred testimoney of Washington's friends(the irregular ruling), and that would have "allegedly" cleared Tyson, as Washington, allegedly, atleast according to her friends, told her friends she had sex with Tyson.
"When everything comes clean, it will be all fine, you'll see. But you guys know me, I shouldn't have to say anything. You know I would never do something like that."
Her word against his? Well, his word looks like it's for sh|t, but since he has good lawyers, he'll probably skate like OJ. Anybody low enough to do that to their wife, is low enough to do anything. I can't find a single stinking link about how Tyson was nailed, but if this POS is really guilty, he ought to suffer the same fate.
Her word against his? Well, his word looks like it's for sh|t, but since he has good lawyers, he'll probably skate like OJ. Anybody low enough to do that to their wife, is low enough to do anything. I can't find a single stinking link about how Tyson was nailed, but if this POS is really guilty, he ought to suffer the same fate.
See the other Kobe thread, his credibility apparently will further be undermined if the reports by ABC are correct, and his stories dont match up/he changed stories/he lied to police. OJ never changed his story, unless I dont remember it accurately, and the prosecutors(as well as the Judge) were incompetent.
He could get off no matter what. Who doubts OJ was guilty, yet he got away with murder. I can't imagine how you nail somebody for rape in a case like this. No witnesses or proof of any kind... that I can imagine, anyway. That's why I want to see specifically how Tyson got nailed. He must have admitted something. Hell, I don't even know if he took the stand!
Who are we talking about? Tyson? Kobe? The qoute seemed like it was Kobes. Well theres a big difference with the Kobe case, Tyson case and OJ case.
Tyson was convicted because of incompetent lawyers, biased trial judge that barred testimony, and his preceived character.
OJ was accquited because of incompetent DA/Prosecutors, the race card, and well I dont think he changed his stories once he gave his original statement.
Kobe, allegedly changed his statements, was not forthright and allegedly lied to police. Theres allegedly physical evidence, in the form of DNA, internal and external injuries, and from some rumors, torn clothing, he also admitted to adultry. Tysons case had non of that, and he was convicted, now Im sure since Kobe has competent lawyers, the judge wont be biased and wont make strange rulings, because the rulings will get overturned. However if these rumors are true and is the evidence the DA brings forward at trial Kobe is SOL, as his only defense is smearing the girl for oding and being hospitalised. Lieing to cops undermines credibility more than OD'ing, and the alleged mountain of evidence on top of the untruthful statements would for sure convict Kobe, unless they had a jury comprised of all the people that have made death threats towards the girl. Kobe HAS to testify in this case if he doesnt, it would amount to automatic conviction, he has to tell his side of the story, and thats where changing his statements/lying comes into play. The DA will rape him on the stand with his conflicting statments or untruths he told to police, if what the recent ABC report suggests is true.
Oh Tyson did take the stand, but his incompetent attorney self raped Tyson. I mean he was a tax lawyer afterall.
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