was the deficit really the root of all the problems americans have had?

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Anarchist420

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i wont be surprised if Obama's last FY in office leaves the first true surplus since eisenhower.

but was a balanced budget really worth:

the excessive increase in bureaucracy including but not limited to the jailing of people who sell raw milk, the reduction of small farms via monsanto's protection, excessive subsidies, and estate taxes, higher prices on electronics, higher food prices, worse food quality due to monsanto being granted excessive monopoly privilege by the State, worse food quality and higher prices due to farm subsidies, more medical freedom being taken away, a small number of new businesses propping up, the perpetuation of huge morally bankrupt corporations, and the further normalization of the banking sector so that they can claim even more of your deposits?

not just the largest overall revenue increase since FDR but also tax increases on every income group (payroll tax hike, chained CPI, increased top marginal rate, fines on the middle class and wealthy for not buying a health care plan)?

the further enrichment of wall street?

the increase in dependence on the police State as gun rights are taken away from non-aggressive people and as the State's power to keep and bear arms increases?

the impovershment of the productive and innovative via IP and the artificial value of paper (so that real goods dont sell)?

the murder of innocents abroad?

the reduction of future security through all the murders carried out by agents of the american State abroad (one would be ignorant to think the house of Saud will not strike again)?

the bust that will come (please dont forget that this inflationary boom is unsustainable)?

anyway, i just believe that although the epilogue for Obama's presidency may be a happy one, it will not be followed by much further happiness and that is because a decrease in the popularity of constitutional confederalism/secession for the long term will sting... the high taxes, inflation, and murder of innocent brown people all over the world may feel good now, but all of that faux prosperity will eventually not only be lost, it will be replaced with new tyranny that was worse than anything we can imagine now. disagree? why?
 

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i should note that i believe that budgets should be balanced, but with much lower taxes and much lower spending. in other words, people who have enabled the State to grow by loaning to it and then accepting money (stolen from the productive) for doing so dont deserve to get paid back at least as far as i am concerned.
 

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Governments do what individuals and Corporations won't or can't.

An Interstate highway system or a War and everything on a massive scale requires governmental debt financing and that requires taxation and that requires employment and that is generated by both Government and Private efforts and is why, in part, Hamilton fought for a strong central government and why we have established in the Constitution a promise to pay those who lend the funds to allow at least some part of the National needs to proceed.
 
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Governments do what individuals and Corporations won't or can't. An Interstate highway system or a War and everything on a massive scale requires governmental debt financing and that requires taxation and that requires employment and that is generated by both Government and Private efforts and is why, in part, Hamilton fought for a strong central government and why we have established in the Constitution a promise to pay those who lend the funds to allow at least some part of the National needs to proceed.
hamilton was a corporatist. and the constitution gives head.
 
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