Was Jessica Lynch raped?

[Orsorum]

Was she?

 

[Sultan]

Funny how she does not have any recollection of it.

Ofcourse for a sizeable percentage in profits, Mr. Braggs(sp?) would say just about anything.

 

[gsaldivar]

do you think...?

 

[Miramonti]

doubt it.

 

[0roo0roo]

her bumhole said yes apparently

 

[BDawg]

OMG! Kobe is an Iraqi sympathizer???

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Considering the distortion that everyone acknowledges from the US-side (regardless of who you blame), I think I will trust the Iraqi doctors on this one.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Considering the distortion that every acknowledges from the US-side (regardless of who you blame), I think I will trust the Iraqi doctors on this one.

links?

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: PatboyX

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Considering the distortion that every acknowledges from the US-side (regardless of who you blame), I think I will trust the Iraqi doctors on this one.

links?

Man, that's common knowledge (the story of Jessica Lynch that is). No wonder people knock the american attention span.

 

[tnitsuj]

I don't think the facts add up (what little I have of them). All the reports are that she was given the best treatment they could give her under the circumstances including finding an orthopedic surgeon to work on her. The other female POW (the one who didn't get killed) said that once the Iraqis realized that she was a female (taking off her PASGT vest) they treated her with defference. ( so why would they rape the much more badly wounded PFC Lynch? who wasn't even concious or ambulatory).

None of the Iraqi doctors have said they saw any evidence of rape and they haven't been proven wrong yet unlike the Media, the Military, etc.

However, it is pretty convenient that now a juicy detail like a rape story arises from medical records that the public can not see just as the book comes out. Rick Bragg isn't known for his veracity and journalist integrity.

We will probably never know, but it is good that she is back home and I don't begrudge her the chance for fame and fortune. Girls from poor WV towns do not get chances like this every day, and God knows she has suffered enough for her country.

 

[privatebreyer]

Wouldn't surprize me. If I remember correctly female POWs in the 1st Gulf War were raped.

The medical reports of her spinal injuries seem to support it. And do you honestly think that the rapists would do it, if it was done, in plain sight of the doctors?

But without seminal evidence to back it up, which may not even been there by the time our doctors got to her, I'm not going to say yes.

 

[ITJunkie]

Personally I doubt it.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Wouldn't surprize me. If I remember correctly female POWs in the 1st Gulf War were raped.

One has no relationship to the other. IIRC, Bush has an extensive history of substance abuse . . . so it wouldn't surprise me if he still samples from time to time. Sounds ridiculous doesn't it?!

The medical reports of her spinal injuries seem to support it. And do you honestly think that the rapists would do it, if it was done, in plain sight of the doctors?

Do tell . . . what kind of medical report of spinal injuries is indicative of rape? I slept through a lot of lectures (and occasionally dozed off in the OR) but it's difficult to imagine missing that clinical pearl.

But without seminal evidence to back it up, which may not even been there by the time our doctors got to her, I'm not going to say yes.

Semen is evidence of sex NOT rape; albeit given the context you are at least in the ballpark.

Evidence to date (in the public domain) does not support rape but cannot rule it out. Lynch doesn't remember a sexual assault. At least one Iraqi doctor that allegedly examined her denies finding evidence of rape (granted I don't know ANY orthopedic surgeon that would bother with more than a superficial pelvic examination when a patient arrives with major trauma injuries . . . at best he would look for significant trauma like pelvic or long bone fractures . . .) Assuming this surgeon was trained decently he would perform a rectal exam (to assess for proper tone; ie nerve function).

Stop reading here if you don't like less than savory details of medicine . . .

There are a variety of reasons for people to lose bowel control. It is not uncommon to place a rectal tube . . . yes it is exactly as it sounds . . . to facilitate evacuation of a poorly functioning rectum. I have no idea what happened to Lynch b/c I haven't read her medical record. I think the jury is out as to whether Lynch or Bragg have read her medical record. In the absence of such information (or Lynch recovering her minute by minute memory), it is difficult not to defer to the sole source of public information on her post-injury condition. According to that person, Lynch's condition was not indicative of a sexual assault.

Islamic garden on the hymen

More tales of the hymen

 

[Nitemare]

Only if 4 male Muslims were there to witness it.


Does it matter if they were raping her or would it have to be 4 non-raping male Muslims?

Let's ask Tariq Aziz or the Iraqi Information Minister what they think..I'd be more apt to believe a US doctor than an Iraqi doctor...the same ones mind you that said that she had not been abused

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I'd be more apt to believe a US doctor than an Iraqi doctor...the same ones mind you that said that she had not been abused

And what exactly is the evidence she was abused?

 

[UCSDHappyAsian]

if i remember correctly..... the first day when they were kept by Iraqi.... our media says she was raped.... however, they dont mention anything about it ever since... i guess they want to protect her privacy

 

[Witling]

Private, Jesus Carumba! "Wouldn't surprize me. If I remember correctly female POWs in the 1st Gulf War were raped."

Their POWs our ours? Any chances of some verification of this statement. As far as I know, the most deadly rapists on the planet are white males. And I am one.

 

[Witling]

Where's Heart when you need him?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

if i remember correctly..... the first day when they were kept by Iraqi.... our media says she was raped.... however, they dont mention anything about it ever since... i guess they want to protect her privacy

Same media that claimed she emptied a M-16 clip and her side arm . . . Maybe you are kidding but I haven't seen any actions by the press, US military, or government officials that indicates an effort to protect this woman's privacy. Unless you consider the excerpts of the rescue video an early promo for her book deal . . . Lynch has been used by all of the above as a means to an ends.

Curiously, the Iraqi government released video of other captured POWs (ranging from gruesome post mortem to interrogations) but none of Lynch . . . I wonder why?

 

[Tab]

Its way to difficult to decide if she was raped or not. I am not going to get even started on it.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Apparently the Iraqi doctors were also very surprised at the way the US soldiers came to collect her, as their were hardly any Iraqi soldiers (if any) present at that time, and a doctor had asked them to come himself. The US needed heroes, and when none would appear they just decided to make a few themselves. Just like the US government were so quick to tell she had been standing there emptying guns and killing loads of Iraqi attackers until she finally ran out of ammo, while she herself said she tried to fire but her gun blocked, she got hit and passed out. She didn't fire a bullet there, yet killed loads of attackers while lying unconciously?

She doesn't recall anything like that happening, the Iraqi doctors say not a soldier touched her and they saw no evidence of abuse, and nothing was mentioned until now. They even said she was in good physical condition when she was 'rescued'.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Whitling
Private, Jesus Carumba! "Wouldn't surprize me. If I remember correctly female POWs in the 1st Gulf War were raped."

Their POWs our ours? Any chances of some verification of this statement. As far as I know, the most deadly rapists on the planet are white males. And I am one.

In the planet??? Come on now, maybe in North America

 

[Doboji]

Just like the US government were so quick to tell she had been standing there emptying guns and killing loads of Iraqi attackers until she finally ran out of ammo, while she herself said she tried to fire but her gun blocked, she got hit and passed out. She didn't fire a bullet there, yet killed loads of attackers while lying unconciously?

If the US needed a gun blasting hero they had one from this very incident, supposedly PFC Patrick Miller, emptyed his weapons killing something like 9 Iraqis before being captured. I think people have latched onto Lynch because she's an example of an all-american pretty girl. As human beings a pretty girl naturally raises an emotional response. I guess we'll have to wait for the release of the book to know for sure what happened. Or at least what Lynch and doctors say happened.

Meanwhile, I hope Jessica makes lots of money off all of trhis... she deserves it.

-Max

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Apparently the Iraqi doctors were also very surprised at the way the US soldiers came to collect her, as their were hardly any Iraqi soldiers (if any) present at that time, and a doctor had asked them to come himself. The US needed heroes, and when none would appear they just decided to make a few themselves. Just like the US government were so quick to tell she had been standing there emptying guns and killing loads of Iraqi attackers until she finally ran out of ammo, while she herself said she tried to fire but her gun blocked, she got hit and passed out. She didn't fire a bullet there, yet killed loads of attackers while lying unconciously?

She doesn't recall anything like that happening, the Iraqi doctors say not a soldier touched her and they saw no evidence of abuse, and nothing was mentioned until now. They even said she was in good physical condition when she was 'rescued'.

those are the same doctors who said the soldiers came in firings "blanks". I don't trust them one bit.

 

[Lucky]

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