Originally posted by: hdeck
no, there are a lot of split opinions on the movie's ending.
Originally posted by: zinfamous
same here. I practically worship the Coen Bros, (well...excluding the Lady Killers...), but I think this one went on about 30 minutes too long. The sojourn with Tommy Lee Jone's character would have been better served earlier in the film; not to mention that introducing another character (his father) at the end of Act 3 is a very bad thing to do.
To me the better ending spot was pretty obvious...but it kept going on suggesting that unnecessary resolutions would occur, but they never did.
Loved the rest of the film, though.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: zinfamous
same here. I practically worship the Coen Bros, (well...excluding the Lady Killers...), but I think this one went on about 30 minutes too long. The sojourn with Tommy Lee Jone's character would have been better served earlier in the film; not to mention that introducing another character (his father) at the end of Act 3 is a very bad thing to do.
To me the better ending spot was pretty obvious...but it kept going on suggesting that unnecessary resolutions would occur, but they never did.
Loved the rest of the film, though.
you don't pay much attention....it wasn't his father. His father died when he was young.
Don't like the ending? Tough...such is life. Not everything is wrapped up with a pretty little bow.
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: zinfamous
same here. I practically worship the Coen Bros, (well...excluding the Lady Killers...), but I think this one went on about 30 minutes too long. The sojourn with Tommy Lee Jone's character would have been better served earlier in the film; not to mention that introducing another character (his father) at the end of Act 3 is a very bad thing to do.
To me the better ending spot was pretty obvious...but it kept going on suggesting that unnecessary resolutions would occur, but they never did.
Loved the rest of the film, though.
you don't pay much attention....it wasn't his father. His father died when he was young.
Don't like the ending? Tough...such is life. Not everything is wrapped up with a pretty little bow.
it was several weeks ago, so I was spotty on the connection to who that character was. Either way, it was a new character introduced after falling action. bad move.
anyhoo, you don't understand my point. the ending made an attempt to connect loose points that IMO, never needed connecting. it started to, but then never did. there simply is no point to doing this.
I don't give a shit if a movie isn't wrapped up in a pretty little bow. I've got a pretty diverse taste in film, and from what I've read, a keener eye towards film structure and plotting than many in these forums. I will never comment that "I like it" or "don't like it." I will always mention why something doesn't work for me, and why it does or does not work in terms of general film theory. If you have a problem with that, fine. But don't simply tell my that my assessment is crap without attempting to offer a valid reason as to why yours is superior.
"Tough...such is life" is a rather pedestrian comment, and I doubt you really even understand how the ending seriously weakens the strengths of the rest of the film. As I mentioned, I'm a huge Coen Brothers fan, and this is their best output since The Man Who Wasn't There. I loved this movie, but the ending was entirely unnecessary. Try watching the original version of "Cinema Paradiso" and then watching the director's cut of the same. Then you might understand how too much can seriously weaken a solid flick.
Originally posted by: zinfamous
same here. I practically worship the Coen Bros, (well...excluding the Lady Killers...), but I think this one went on about 30 minutes too long. The sojourn with Tommy Lee Jone's character would have been better served earlier in the film; not to mention that introducing another character (his father) at the end of Act 3 is a very bad thing to do.
To me the better ending spot was pretty obvious...but it kept going on suggesting that unnecessary resolutions would occur, but they never did.
Loved the rest of the film, though.
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: zinfamous
same here. I practically worship the Coen Bros, (well...excluding the Lady Killers...), but I think this one went on about 30 minutes too long. The sojourn with Tommy Lee Jone's character would have been better served earlier in the film; not to mention that introducing another character (his father) at the end of Act 3 is a very bad thing to do.
To me the better ending spot was pretty obvious...but it kept going on suggesting that unnecessary resolutions would occur, but they never did.
Loved the rest of the film, though.
you don't pay much attention....it wasn't his father. His father died when he was young.
Don't like the ending? Tough...such is life. Not everything is wrapped up with a pretty little bow.
it was several weeks ago, so I was spotty on the connection to who that character was. Either way, it was a new character introduced after falling action. bad move.
anyhoo, you don't understand my point. the ending made an attempt to connect loose points that IMO, never needed connecting. it started to, but then never did. there simply is no point to doing this.
I don't give a shit if a movie isn't wrapped up in a pretty little bow. I've got a pretty diverse taste in film, and from what I've read, a keener eye towards film structure and plotting than many in these forums. I will never comment that "I like it" or "don't like it." I will always mention why something doesn't work for me, and why it does or does not work in terms of general film theory. If you have a problem with that, fine. But don't simply tell my that my assessment is crap without attempting to offer a valid reason as to why yours is superior.
"Tough...such is life" is a rather pedestrian comment, and I doubt you really even understand how the ending seriously weakens the strengths of the rest of the film. As I mentioned, I'm a huge Coen Brothers fan, and this is their best output since The Man Who Wasn't There. I loved this movie, but the ending was entirely unnecessary. Try watching the original version of "Cinema Paradiso" and then watching the director's cut of the same. Then you might understand how too much can seriously weaken a solid flick.
too each his own. I loved the book and the movie. The movie did excise a minor storyline that did carry through to the end IIRC, but IMHO the movie still works. It could be said that the essence of the movie's point and theme WAS the third act.