Was I being a jackass?

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MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you are the same person you accuse him of being. you have also made no effort and right now was your chance but you chose to be bitter instead. someone had to be the first step and he may have been doing that, or maybe he wasnt, but either way you made sure it didnt work. you are being immature and stubburn so this is just as much your fault as it is his.

I don't see it immature to indirectly say "f_ck you" to someone.

the fact that you can say that reinforces the fact that you are immature. it is never ok to say fvck you to anyone, direct or indirect. if you feel like that toward someone there is a good chance it is partly your fault as well for causing a miscommunication, which in this case that is clearly what happened.
 

michaels

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I don't want relationship after all these years. I tired that when I was in high school, with no luck. I wanted it when i was younger, but I accepted the fact that i would only have one true grandpa, that is fine. Sure it would have been great if things were different but they are not.
 

jordanz

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Apr 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: michaels
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Stop being an ass michaels, and help him.

Why? He has money, he can go to a dealership or mechanic.

For real, only thing this man has is the title for "grandpa." That aside, a random person asks your father for a favor to tell you to retrieve a schematic for a 50 year old car,.. you do it right quick?

I would search around for a bit, what's the worst that can happen? I don't find it? At least I made the effort.

And then what's that? Time wasted. And they move on to another venue, just like they would have given you said "No" to begin with.

time wasted sure, but its the effort that counts. you obviously have a sense of entitlement and that explains it all. you are a perfect example of what is wrong with the current younger generation. you let the chance to do the right thing slip out of your fingers because you are bitter and expect returns on all effort made toward anyone. it truely is sad.

Nah. Entitlement isn't anything to me. I don't care for credit. I'm not bitter and even if I did take the time to look for such a thing, I believe in favors. Just not in some stupid sh!t like this. I don't know you. I put forth my effort in doing things for others who I feel deserve it, and for some random person to ask someone to ask me for a favor? Doesn't fit the credentials.
 

Savij

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Maybe it's grandpa's way of trying to open up to you. It can be hard for a guy just walk up and start talking so maybe this is the best he can come up with. Why not just try to do it and see if it can't make two people (you and your grandpa) happier.
 

michaels

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Originally posted by: Savij
Maybe it's grandpa's way of trying to open up to you. It can be hard for a guy just walk up and start talking so maybe this is the best he can come up with. Why not just try to do it and see if it can't make two people (you and your grandpa) happier.

That's a possibility but i highly doubt it, and I don't have the desire now.
 

jordanz

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Apr 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you are the same person you accuse him of being. you have also made no effort and right now was your chance but you chose to be bitter instead. someone had to be the first step and he may have been doing that, or maybe he wasnt, but either way you made sure it didnt work. you are being immature and stubburn so this is just as much your fault as it is his.

I don't see it immature to indirectly say "f_ck you" to someone.

the fact that you can say that reinforces the fact that you are immature. it is never ok to say fvck you to anyone, direct or indirect. if you feel like that toward someone there is a good chance it is partly your fault as well for causing a miscommunication, which in this case that is clearly what happened.

Let someone steal your wallet, and you'll see how immature a f_ck you is.

And oh yeah sure, it was your fault. You brought the wallet outside your house to be open to the possiblity of being 'stolen.'
 

MrDudeMan

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Jan 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you are the same person you accuse him of being. you have also made no effort and right now was your chance but you chose to be bitter instead. someone had to be the first step and he may have been doing that, or maybe he wasnt, but either way you made sure it didnt work. you are being immature and stubburn so this is just as much your fault as it is his.

I don't see it immature to indirectly say "f_ck you" to someone.

the fact that you can say that reinforces the fact that you are immature. it is never ok to say fvck you to anyone, direct or indirect. if you feel like that toward someone there is a good chance it is partly your fault as well for causing a miscommunication, which in this case that is clearly what happened.

Let someone steal your wallet, and you'll see how immature a f_ck you is.

And oh yeah sure, it was your fault. You brought the wallet outside your house to be open to the possiblity of being 'stolen.'

ive had much more than a wallet stolen from me, so your example isnt valid because i still didnt say that, believe it or not. i had a cd player stolen from my car and the first thing i thought of was "im glad he broke the smaller window in the back and not a big one that costs more." realize i definitely would prefer to have my cd player in my car instead of being stolen, but whoever stole it obviously has a problem if they feel the need to steal and i have the ability to buy another one...that certainly doesnt give them the right to do what they did, not even a little bit, but i am not going to give it another thought and waste time cussing that person since whats done is done and i am going to move on with my life.

the fact that you think it to be impossible to take the high road in a situation such as your example further proves your immaturity. im merely pointing out the irony in your attitude toward your grandpa since it seems to be just as much your fault for being the way you are. some people arent bitter by default irregardless of your point of view on life.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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My hats off to you all. I read and re-read the OP and I still have no clue as to what he's blabbing about.
 

Hyperblaze

Lifer
May 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
My hats off to you all. I read and re-read the OP and I still have no clue as to what he's blabbing about.

the problem with his OP was he really doesn't have enough details.

But he still hasn't replied to my latest post on there so I'm still neutral on my responses
 

jordanz

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Apr 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you are the same person you accuse him of being. you have also made no effort and right now was your chance but you chose to be bitter instead. someone had to be the first step and he may have been doing that, or maybe he wasnt, but either way you made sure it didnt work. you are being immature and stubburn so this is just as much your fault as it is his.

I don't see it immature to indirectly say "f_ck you" to someone.

the fact that you can say that reinforces the fact that you are immature. it is never ok to say fvck you to anyone, direct or indirect. if you feel like that toward someone there is a good chance it is partly your fault as well for causing a miscommunication, which in this case that is clearly what happened.

Let someone steal your wallet, and you'll see how immature a f_ck you is.

And oh yeah sure, it was your fault. You brought the wallet outside your house to be open to the possiblity of being 'stolen.'

ive had much more than a wallet stolen from me, so your example isnt valid because i still didnt say that, believe it or not. i had a cd player stolen from my car and the first thing i thought of was "im glad he broke the smaller window in the back and not a big one that costs more." realize i definitely would prefer to have my cd player in my car instead of being stolen, but whoever stole it obviously has a problem if they feel the need to steal and i have the ability to buy another one...that certainly doesnt give them the right to do what they did, not even a little bit, but i am not going to give it another thought and waste time cussing that person since whats done is done and i am going to move on with my life.

the fact that you think it to be impossible to take the high road in a situation such as your example further proves your immaturity. im merely pointing out the irony in your attitude toward your grandpa since it seems to be just as much your fault for being the way you are. some people arent bitter by default irregardless of your point of view on life.

Problem is: I'm not michaels. Same avatar. Different person.

But I do like the fact that you do like to think that you are "lucky" in not getting the worst possible situation. "Thank god they only cut off 9 of my fingers, but I'm definitely not angry at that."
 

MrPickins

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May 24, 2003
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If the man never made an effort to be a part of your life, you don't owe him jack.
Don't let people here make you feel bad. Somebody always is around to tell you what you should have done...
 

jordanz

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Apr 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: MrPickins
If the man never made an effort to be a part of your life, you don't owe him jack.
Don't let people here make you feel bad. Somebody always is around to tell you what you should have done...

Thank you.
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrPickins
If the man never made an effort to be a part of your life, you don't owe him jack.
Don't let people here make you feel bad. Somebody always is around to tell you what you should have done...

Thank you.


Pssst...I think MrPickins was talking to the OP. :confused:
 

jordanz

Senior member
Apr 27, 2005
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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: jordanz
Originally posted by: MrPickins
If the man never made an effort to be a part of your life, you don't owe him jack.
Don't let people here make you feel bad. Somebody always is around to tell you what you should have done...

Thank you.


Pssst...I think MrPickins was talking to the OP. :confused:

I know, I was just saying "Thank you, thats what I'm talking about."
 

sixone

Lifer
May 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: michaels
I don't hate him. The thing is he is like a stranger.

Funny you should say that. Your OP was full of reasons for you to carry a grudge, and yet you claim he's like a stranger?

He's an old man, who lost out on knowing you and seeing you grow up. Think about what kind of person you want him to see that you've grown into. Someone bitter and spiteful? Or someone who would take five minutes out of his day to help someone to whom he has no obligation whatsoever? Don't make this about him - it's all about you.
 

KarenMarie

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Sep 20, 2003
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He is the senior, it is up to the junior to show respect to the senior first and make the first moves.

Isn't this also gonna put your dad on the spot when he has to go back and say no?


I would have just done it without throwing a hissy fit.... but, it is up to you.