Was Bush 41 the least great candidate in 1992?

Anarchist420

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I used to talk mad shit about him because I am a dickhead, but he was a nice mostly self-less man who served other people; and many complied with the American with Disabilities Act which was kind to me. problems with it include:

1. I can't help anyone out independently;
2. some suffered for the ADA as it was taxing;
3. it was be abused by me and many others who took it;
4. and my parents had money to get me out of school anyway (and maybe place me away or place themselves away) but the Dept. of Indoctrination as well as my parents' choices to have highly toxic chainshots put into me then giving me ritalin, desoxyn, SRIs and anti-psychotics made that hard to take me out of school.
5. private charity works and is truthful
6. it loaned credence to hypocrisy (including my own) while hyper criticism couldn't be truthful; no one could suffer on their own from being hyper-critical.

A good thing about it is that Ryan White seemed satisfied with George HW Bush and George HW Bush intended to enrich the world with it. And there wasn't as much resistance as there was with the Civil Rights Act; perhaps Bush 41 being so private and polite made it better than LBJ and MLK Jr. made the Goverment Centralizing Property Acts. MLK Jr is good for non-violent resistance but it could've turned it into a violent revolution had LBJ not been half-agreeable. Neither man was providing or happy to help like Bush 41 was.

And MLK wasn't satified like Ryan White was. And the absence of the "Civil rights act" gave ethnics of the Roman faith (like my grandmother) a seat they may or may not have deserved in the South. She was far, far removed from the Philly PA elite although still a Neo-Republican starting with Eisenhower (and her mother was probably against the Democrats at the time and the Republicans as she used loopholes in the Emergency Quota Act and the National Origins Act to not go back to Central Europe). She probably hated Robert A Taft; and Robert A Taft wasn't quite Ron Paul. Robert A Taft was like grover cleveland. Ron Paul is a fan of both; Grover Cleveland and Robert A Taft were Civil ESTJs, both cared about the national economy, liberty, and were more altruistic in their foreign policy than men like Alexander Hamilton and Henry Cabot Lodge (except the man who wished for FDR that the latter would never be President of the United States was probably more classical liberal than paleoconservative; Grover Cleveland also didn't let himself get conned into internationalism). But I don't want to ever work for the State directly simply because I have pre-natal Testosterone/paranoia like Nixon did and that would stop me from governing like John Tyler. John Tyler couldn't be depressed about not being loved by women or about being not having kids as he was so good looking and tall due to him having low Prenatal T. Coolidge and cleveland were principled like john tyler because their mtDNA hgs were U and K which meant they were good looking and gave off good exhalations. They were also non-violent despite being Guardians (sensing judging types are often out of touch with reality) and that is due to the high ph of their celtic/North Eurasian mtDNA haplogroups. Their right hand 2d4d ratios were high, but I would make a great bad ruler because mine is very low.

And the ADA helped me for a time, even though individual action helped me. Much moreso than MLK Jr. stayed with LBJ's crap which was a lot more powerful and evil than the ADA. MLK Jr. was idealistic and LBJ didn't really love him that much. And blacks as a group aren't richer today than they were in the 50s. the blacks would've been freed under the Articles of Confederation and remained here without so many whites getting killed and pissed off by the State. Or, if the 11 State of the former CSA had been a true confederation then the blacks could've been not less free than they are today. Or the 13th Amendment should've put a wall between the U.S. Central govt and slavery so that the blacks could've shown the whites that they were not too terribly different, so that the labor market could've changed, and so that real savings would increase without min wage bureaucracy. The Radical Republicans wanted control and revenge, not Justice. And then the federal war on drugs and the federal funding of cops is partly why blacks are excluded from the marijuana trade in colorado. Do we need enlightened princes of small secessionist communities?

I am hypocrite for using the ADA in college to others' expense. If I need structure so badly that I can't help anyone independently, then I should never be employed. a 50% unemployment rate isn't absolutely 50% bad. unemployment is a Keynesian statistic and it just doesn't look at the overall health of the economy, yet it tries to prescribe top down solutions.
Ron Paul 2012's plan was excellent and could give much more stability than what he had proposed in the past.

I don't know why we can't privatize the Federal Reserve, minimize the debt, and end real govt revenues by repealing legal tender (lazy people may or may not be helped by the State forcing others to pay them in dollars only, but legal tender contracts are not pro-debtor), by not taxing non-dollar assets, and by not threatening people who give the banking system and the dept of debt competition. The Fed and legal tender are not pro-independence and they result in reduced output.

basically, the State has tried to help the 50-60% or so who need severe structure yet those who get it are not happy anyway. Then those who love ingenuity and change can't have their freedom because of the State's power to tax and to centralize all money within itself and within the banking system. Sorry about that digression.

So Bush 41 is a good man, if a bit security seeking. He, Gerald Ford, and McKinley were the most tolerant presidents of the 20th century. Bill Clinton was a good man, but he was much, much more conservative than Bush 41 in some ways. And really, Clinton and Gore were not much more independently foresightful compared to Obama or Newt Gingrich and the intolerance of the Clinton-Gore Admin tricked the fuck out of Bush 43. Clinton was gifted with excellent INsight, but not so much foresight. I have no gifts at all so perhaps I am hypocritical.

Obama and Newt are rational and tolerant (at least compared to too many other Presidents) and that is what has stopped any "terrorists" from retaliating here. But the GOP's actions under Reagan's Admin and Bush 43's Admin as well as today are partly (if not mostly) responsible for Obama not firing the bureaucrats and also for the terrorism.

Maybe we need Sarah Palin to be President as she aligns with public opinion, I don't fucking know. The poor lady is always crying and getting picked on when she just wants to help. And really, she isn't dumb. She's not aware, but she is polite (unless you're fucking with her own whoever they may be). But she would've made a better more democratic president than McCain. She could've been like Gerald R Ford.

Was Gerald R. Ford all that removed from Thomas Jefferson? I mean, look at how pretty their mothers were, how much abuse she took, how much abuse Jerry took, look at how polite he was, look at how clumsy he was, look at how stepped down after less than full 3 years (I guess he was afraid to disappoint Richard Nixon). His intentions were good; they couldn't render general welfare like Ron Paul's, but did they not promote it? I am like Jimmy Carter and MBachmann but it is nicer to be dependent on pleasing people like Ford and Paul than to be logically compulsive like I am. The problems are rooted in the State as the State distorts reality.

Anyway, what if Perot was a stronger (i.e. worse/bad/authoritarian) President than Bill Clinton and if Bill Clinton made a stronger President than Bush 41 had the old-style republican been re-elected?

Myself, I am pretty sure Bush 41 would've been less centralizing than Pat Buchanan, Ross Perot, and David Duke would've been. and perhaps we need someone like bush 41 again. Histrionic characteristics in sensation seekers (like Bill Clinton) are Good, but not in presidents or leaders because the State censors ingenuity once the histrionic leader leaves office. Pure commanding narcissism like i can have is even worse.

So leaders with extreme dependent characteristics (polite and emotional universality) can be as liberal as TPs are; but the INTP leader (or maybe another ENTP presidency sometime after the first and current one), if ever there is one in the future, will never minimize risks for me and will perhaps inspire the people to execute me if I become a ruler. I don't deserve to live.

I wish I was a better writer and had mental self-control but the smartest people may like it. Incoherence is good even though I am not good.
 

xaeniac

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You are all over the place;

I will say that Bush 41 had a stacked resume and it would be hard to argue about his qualifications as President whether you think he was a good one or not.
 

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I liked bush 41, he understood the issues and acknowledged reality. It's why he got in and out of Iraq and why he pushed to raise taxes and why he had no problem calling his future boss's economic policy "voodoo economics".

I'd probably call him the last true conservative.

His son on the other hand had no such qualities and was a complete moron.
 

Carson Dyle

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He piggybacked on the mass popularity of Ronald Reagan, nothing more. The guy was a complete zero as a president. Even in comparison to the three ineffective suits that have followed him.
 

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I liked bush 41, he understood the issues and acknowledged reality. It's why he got in and out of Iraq and why he pushed to raise taxes and why he had no problem calling his future boss's economic policy "voodoo economics".

I'd probably call him the last true conservative.

His son on the other hand had no such qualities and was a complete moron.

For once we actually agree.
 

alcoholbob

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You really should change your name or something OP. As it sounds I can't tell if you are a government plant or just an extreme stereotype with that kind of user name and your wall of text rants.
 

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I liked bush 41, he understood the issues and acknowledged reality. It's why he got in and out of Iraq and why he pushed to raise taxes and why he had no problem calling his future boss's economic policy "voodoo economics".

I'd probably call him the last true conservative.

His son on the other hand had no such qualities and was a complete moron.

+1.

...I still don't understand why bush 41 didn't win re-election, usually the sitting president is a shoo-in unless the public is really unhappy about something he did/did not do.
 

IronWing

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Bush 41 is a war criminal. The invasion of Panama was a war crime resulting in hundreds to thousands of needless deaths.
 

MongGrel

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+1.

...I still don't understand why bush 41 didn't win re-election, usually the sitting president is a shoo-in unless the public is really unhappy about something he did/did not do.
He realized Cheney was the devil and didn't bother to try getting re-elected too hard, then Cheney and his cronies got ahold of the kid and got him elected.

Jeb I've met and would have been a better president even back then, but I do not want another Bush in there myself.

How Dubya got elected a second time a mystery to me, other than BS to begin with.
 

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+1. ...I still don't understand why bush 41 didn't win re-election, usually the sitting president is a shoo-in unless the public is really unhappy about something he did/did not do.
plus 1 from me too. Perhaps it was his politeness and his moderately high right hand 2d4d ratio (Clinton's right hand 2d4d ratio was even higher, but Clinton's extroverted sensing caused him to centralize power so he could be testosteronal).
Bush 41 is a war criminal. The invasion of Panama was a war crime resulting in hundreds to thousands of needless deaths.
Bush 41 was one of the most dovish presidents we ever had. Clinton may have been more of war criminal than Bush 43 was and than Obama is. Clinton knew what he was doing. Clinton's myopia and bombing the pharmaceutical factory (in partly Saudi-controlled areas no less) while blaming it all on Bin Laden along with Cheney's Ambition and Bush 43's incompetence were why the attacks occurred in 2001. Obama is more precise with who he trusts (Obama can always detect lies based on logic; Bill Clinton trusted most people and cared for the majority but he couldn't precisely describe multiple possibilities for the future) and Bush 43 was like me, George Washington, and FDR (i.e., Thinking-Judging types can be threats to a balance of liberty and security). And Alexander Hamilton became Dick Cheney while the drugs and MSM masked Bush 43's irritability. Fortunately, Alexander Hamilton couldn't shut the world down thanks to inductive reasoning and politeness. Whether Churchill was worse than Hitler I don't know, but neither man was as dangerous Stalin and FDR. Mussolini, of course, couldn't do a whole hell of a lot and he got murdered anyway. As for Emperor Hirohito, he was an articulate defender installed by the Japanese people to defend against FDR's aggression. I hate myself for my grandmother's aggression against Japanese people (to her credit, she wanted to help invade Germany instead but the U.S.G. was paranoid that she would be an enemy combatant given that she used her German paternal origins to become a citizen while her mother's country had a very low quota) as well as her misguided support for aggression against her adoptive country. And she kept my mom's youngest brother off the Ritalin while my own mother couldn't do the same for me and others (to my mom's credit my vaccinations were worse and my dad trusted the status quo; my dad, a good self-sacrificing INFJ licensed physician, was never as smart as his ESFP father in law was).
He realized Cheney was the devil and didn't bother to try getting re-elected too hard, then Cheney and his cronies got ahold of the kid and got him elected. Jeb I've met and would have been a better president even back then, but I do not want another Bush in there myself. How Dubya got elected a second time a mystery to me, other than BS to begin with.
i have to agree with you. men like Dick Cheney are why i fear my power. the ENTJ is the biggest devil of all the types because they know how to use tools like me. and when they're kids they'll go on about how retarded i am without being able to understand.

happiness really does owe itself to inductive reasoning first and common (crystallized) emotion (universal politeness) second. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison are the Natural Governors of the World (the Neo-Republicans, myself, and Mitt Romney talked too much so they could've supported Obama because Obama's inductive logic and his nature is one of Thomas Jefferson's and James Madison's own; Obama really does have a secessionist and classical liberal soul). And please never forget, the ESFJ Al Smith is one of New York's Natural Providers and the Last Democrat Nurturer; the Last Democrat who was going to balance the budget honestly (no tax revenue surpluses and no Social Security shifting) and it would've been without active risk to his presence or futurity. That wonderful heir of the Jeffersonians would've sold his own food, his organs, and his beer corporation while giving all his employees Xmas bonuses in Irish gold to balance the u.s. budget. He probably would've ended the Fed or got killed trying to decentralize the gold. He would've made an ever more good president than Warren Harding.

And unlike hoover who was extraverted thinking auxiliary, al smith had extraverted feeling (with his auxiliary introverted sensing) and as such was of no threat to the present or the future. Ron Paul's introverted intuition can be dangerous to liberty.

But no taxes should ever be spent honoring that wonderful man because he didn't like dominance from me. And damn did FDR caused Al Smith's pro-10th Amendment and fiscally responsible introverted thinking to come out; just like my extraverted thinking did to one of the Feeling Judging pre-school teachers I had (back in June '91, she wrote an eloquent letter to my parents covering all bases and ended saying how bright I was, how good I was to my friends, and how she wanted to treat my parents to lunch with her own money;

fortunately my mom had the self-control not to send me back to Trinity Lutheran even though it had the best educators, excellent students, and the most comfortable chapel i had ever been to in Good News).
 

Matt1970

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+1.

...I still don't understand why bush 41 didn't win re-election, usually the sitting president is a shoo-in unless the public is really unhappy about something he did/did not do.

3 things did him in.

1. "read my lips"
2. Perot was a strong candidate
3. Clinton was even stronger
 

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You really should change your name or something OP. As it sounds I can't tell if you are a government plant or just an extreme stereotype with that kind of user name and your wall of text rants.
I don't want to be a GOP plant. I am now worried about what men like Karl Rove could plan for me given that I rejected his uniformity without reason and given my rejection of Bush. I am very, very worried that there is a plan involving me against someone. At the same time, I am very very worried about being reformed or altered. i need to be pushed, alone, into instant death without anyone getting hurt. the psychiatry won't always be there; it is not absolute (i could be drug to reduce the pain and that would be better than lenny small's death). If a paranoid cop could just come up to me and just shoot me to death without any violence to anyone else, then the future definitely will be much better off.

If my death is used to reduce centralization of power, then others will be happier, so it will be good.

Biden is good, but I don't want a mob to come after me either. Maybe if my next bottle of medication killed me then that would be good. back in '01, the tall red-haired ENTP friend of mine twice or 3x (maybe even 3 different days) said very directly I that no girl could have sex with me; then i asked if a slut would (i didn't know what a slut was) he said no. i may have asked if a whore would (not knowing what a whore was either) and he said maybe. i don't ever want a prostitute because they aren't real love.

too much knowledge is so dangerous to liberty which means fluid intelligence is better for human happiness. approximately 3/4 of mtDNA in modern europe is the antithesis of liberty, independent happiness, and ingenuity. america is the leader because james madison (probably mtDNA hg U like most early devout classical republicans), ben franklin (possibly mtDNA hg V which may be the good kid while Napoleon's mtDNA haplogroup of H especially mixed with non-R1b Y-DNA resulted in dependent selfishness, exclusion, violent elitism and he was outright dangerous to liberty), and thomas jefferson (mtDNA hg K and T2 Y-DNA; Debbie Schlussel may or may not have had the imagination to understand mtDNA but Thomas Jefferson never suspected anything and was careful to see the Jewish people, "Musslemen", and Roman Catholics as individuals unlike both types of Federalists and a few members of the original republican party) made sure everyone could enjoy life at some time. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were fair; Alexander Hamilton and the Federalist Party had more similarities to Adolph Hitler, Franco, and Mussolini and the illegitimate Roman Republic (Alexander Hamilton wanted to legislate death for copying coins; at least George Washington never enforced death for copying as far as i know). the central govt should never have the power to charge anyone with treason either (there is no consensus on what treason is while Hamilton, Clay, Lincoln, and the Amendments other than 1-10 can't represent majority rule and minority rights at the same time; after Amendment 13, the U.S. Constitution ceased representing majority rule and minority rights concurrently) ; but at least bills of attainder may not come here.

And I don't want to be like them but my members of my mtDNA sure were supporters of violent order. They couldn't help it. Like Romney couldn't. Obama is mtDNA hg U/K which highly correlated with perceiving types first and FJ after that. But if I lose my knowledge then that is as wasteful as having it is given that I don't have a free and independent mind. Ron Paul is a good man and i will love him forever, no matter how much the GOP corrupted him. and perhaps not even the late, great, good Martin Van Buren fully comprehended that free market money only happens in a confederation; while legislating the centralization of money in anyway is dangerous. a wall between Central State and money could never happen because the State centralizes a little bit of everything. Milton Friedman probably got it the most correct (especially since his position on free market money may have been forced out of him). and obama doesn't mind cutting red tape or even seeing it cut; please just don't do it violently. progressives, conservatives, moderate Republicans/centralist Democrats (centrism leads to central planning), "Constitutionalists", and LINOs too often support enforcement and veto power to preserve Red tape.
 
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I don't want to be altered into a new body like of a robot. Unfortunately, it is hard for me to die due to my imperviousness to pain, metals, and antigens. I don't want to be an executive monster. I don't want to be legislated or even a subject of any legislation. I am impervious to the good effects of drugs, chemicals, and alcohol. I always have been too elitist and rude without prolactin elevation.