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I think the best martial arts in the world is San Su Kung Fu. It's what the Seals use. I know this guy that held a black belt in it. For fun, 5 or 6 of us would sneak up behind us and try to attack/pin him down but we would always end up on the floor in defeat. >>
Correction, the SEALs don't "use" any art in particular. The actual martial arts based hand-to-hand training given to all SEALs by the Navy during or after SEAL/BUDs is a crash course in 'mixed-art' fighting, grappling, submission and pain compliance holds (borrowing from kickboxing, American boxing fundamentals, Jujitsu, and Philipino martial arts). Remember, it is the goal of special forces operators NOT to 'mix it up' with an enemy combatant, so special forces members actually don't get much training in this area. So little, that it is common for special forces members to seek additional training on their own time. Navy SEALs receive between 20 and 30 hours of "official" hand-to-hand combative training, depending on time constraints.
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Here's a hint at things though. Jeet Kune Do was a conceptual art that bruce lee was forming from the strengths of multiple martial arts. If he was alive today, he'd probably input well more into his conceptual martial art. Alas, he is not here, and his martial art is nothing but a lost idea. >>
True, but Lee personally groomed and selected one individual to be the steward of Lee's Jeet Kune Do and carry on Lee's martial arts legacy; the legendary Guru Dan Inosanto. Jeet Kune Do has undergone many evolutions, as Lee would have imagined and wanted it. What is Jeet Kune Do today? Whatever Guru Dan says it is.
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Well, jeez, that's like comparing a musket with a modern machine gun. Of course the machine gun's going to win. This entire argument is a phallacy, because there are always advancements that invalidate the past. Maybe a better question would be, was Bruce Lee the best fighter of his time? Whether he was or not, he was an impressive fighter >>
Well said. The same debate arises whenever they try to list the "best [whatever] of all time". You have those people who are so simple minded they cannot take a moment to appreciate the talents and achievements of generations gone-by. There is always that element who will see someone from 1964 on a list next to Jordan or some other current player, and they always say "WTF is that guy doing on there? Any current starting NBA player could dunk on that guy at will." Of course they could, that's not the point.
Lee was an phenomenal athlete. Like Jordan at the top of his game, who could do everything a little better than everyone else on the court, a couple things a lot better, Lee was uncommonly fast, agile, and strong.
But, there is little reason to believe that Lee was the "greatest fighter of all time". Lee never fought professionally, or even in sanctioned martial arts competitions, none of us ever saw Lee fight anyone. There is only his rumored legendary reputation gained from dozens of nasty street fights while growing-up in Hong Kong and perhaps a dozen more here in the States. Lee's movies were an impressive demonstration of skill and athleticism, but rehersed and choreographed fight scenes are no indicator of how great a fighter anyone is. Movies are not reality.
Indeed, there is reason to believe that Lee's most famous fight with Wong Jack Man, portrayed as a victory for Lee in the motion picture "Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story" (1993; Jason Scott Lee, Lauren Holly), was at best a draw with some feeling Lee had lost (
"Bruce Lee's Toughest Fight", Official Karate, July 1980)