Was Black Panther shot at 60 frames per second?

shortylickens

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Cuz the pizza joint is playing it on their TV in Soap Opera Mode and it looks fuckin weird.
 
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I would doubt it, you're probably just seeing the interpolation of the TV (likely a poor implementation). Maybe some other affect at the same time (or maybe some weird thing like the player getting it to 30fps and then the TV interpolating that to 60).
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Cuz the pizza joint is playing it on their TV in Soap Opera Mode and it looks fuckin weird.
I lot of modern TVs have this tech that sprinkles frames between the 24 or whatever to make it 'smoother' (aka garbage). I don't remember the name, I'm sure someone will correct me soon.
 

LikeLinus

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I lot of modern TVs have this tech that sprinkles frames between the 24 or whatever to make it 'smoother' (aka garbage). I don't remember the name, I'm sure someone will correct me soon.
OMG this is the worst thing in the latest TVs. I was so accustom to Panasonic Plasmas and then had to replace a couple of TVs this year. So we watched a show that we've seen before and it was the second season. The entire time we were like "wow, production when to shit. It's like they hired a child as the cinematographer". Finally playing the same thing on another TV, I figured out that it was a setting. Why on earth they put this as an option, is beyond me. It makes any type of motion very awkward!
 
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Back in 2006ish, Samsung's version of this was called auto motion plus. Other brands had their own version of that.

But yeah, it's just the TV adding in an extra frame to smooth things out. Looks terrible on movies. For sports, some say it's the best thing ever (I haven't really tried).
 

Thebobo

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Back in 2006ish, Samsung's version of this was called auto motion plus. Other brands had their own version of that.

But yeah, it's just the TV adding in an extra frame to smooth things out. Looks terrible on movies. For sports, some say it's the best thing ever (I haven't really tried).

True motion?
 

Muse

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I think a lot of video these days has mega-frame capture going on. Slow motion video can be incredibly smooth and I don't think you can do that without a ton of frames/second going on. They may have done this with portions of Black Panther. IIRC a lot of the production was very impressive. I watched the DVD a month or so ago. I have the Blu-ray checked out from the library, it's due in a few days, may watch it.
 

realibrad

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Yep, its super annoying. I got a TV with that a long time ago and was confused. People seemed to be moving faster and unnatural. It felt like people were moving and then snapping back. My guess is that it was predicting frames, adding them, and then when the person did not move there, would snap back. Turned it off and never went back.
 

zinfamous

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Back in 2006ish, Samsung's version of this was called auto motion plus. Other brands had their own version of that.

But yeah, it's just the TV adding in an extra frame to smooth things out. Looks terrible on movies. For sports, some say it's the best thing ever (I haven't really tried).

Yeah it was absolutely wretched. Only made worse when trying to explain to others, by example, why the effect is so nauseating and inferior IQ compared to standard 24 FPS for film production.

If all you watch is cartoons (like Avatar or those godawful Hobbit movies), then maybe there is some benefit, but it's actually worse than Pan and Scan, which is kinda funny to see hanging around in some of those OTA channels that broadcast old 80s flicks converted to 4:3 on magnetic stock.
 

mnewsham

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Cuz the pizza joint is playing it on their TV in Soap Opera Mode and it looks fuckin weird.
whether it was SHOT in 60fps, I don't know, but I doubt it.

The retail release however is for sure at 24fps though.

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Midwayman

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I kinda like the interpolation on my set if it wasn't for the artifacting. I'd love to see native 60fps for everything. So much pain in pans with low FPS.
 

mnewsham

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I kinda like the interpolation on my set if it wasn't for the artifacting. I'd love to see native 60fps for everything. So much pain in pans with low FPS.
I agree, I use SVP on my computer to make everything 144hz, and most live action stuff looks decent until the artifacting comes into play.

Anime at 144hz is solid though, far less artifacting.
 

K1052

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Motion smoothing is the devil. It should be disabled by default on new TVs because people just assume that's how it's supposed to look for some reason.