Was anyone here a big time pro-Obama supporter before the election
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Lifer
sure, why not? i bought a house at the peak of the bubble and will be the first to say that was a mistake. i have noticed however that Republicans such as yourself tend to have a difficult time admitting their mistakes. just look at GWB, in his eight years of disaster he was unable to say "i made a mistake" or "i could have done a better job" until he was headed out the door.
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I was for Hillary, but ended up voting for Obama. I could have easily voted for McCain if it wasn't for Palin turning out to be such a twit.
That said, I don't regret voting for Obama.... yet, but it's only been what.. 60 days??
That said, I don't regret voting for Obama.... yet, but it's only been what.. 60 days??
I should hope that people don't care too much about what others on the internet think of them
I would have called myself a big Obama supporter pre-election. Now, I'm holding him to task (just like I would have a President McCain and just like I held Mr. Bush to task)
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
retrospooty
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It have become clear from the number of vermin that have arisen to crucify him who he really is.
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I supported Obama for the simple fact he wanted change and I didn't want McCain. His campaign was very negative; honestly it almost seems Obama's win was too easy.
The current things that turn me off to Obama that I had hopes for: Said he would repeal the Patriot Act and would filibuster that retroactive immunity for the illegal wiretapping. Turned around and voted to reinstate the Patriot Act and allow more wiretapping.
The economy got pwned by various corporations and lobbyists. However his appointments are all these sort of people. DoD, Secret of Treasury, CIA, Department of Health and Services, etc. Scares me to put these sort of people in power.
Pledged for any future bailouts/stimulus that the bill would be there 5 days before the vote. Congress had 1 hour to read his and used the whole sky is falling routine to push it through. After it was passed he took a 4 day vacation and said there was no rush to sign it.
Mostly those are the things that irk me because those are the main things I looked at in the campaign and each of them was the opposite of what was said. I'm not anti-Obama but I am definitely disappointed. We'll see how this presidency all plays out though in the coming years.
The current things that turn me off to Obama that I had hopes for: Said he would repeal the Patriot Act and would filibuster that retroactive immunity for the illegal wiretapping. Turned around and voted to reinstate the Patriot Act and allow more wiretapping.
The economy got pwned by various corporations and lobbyists. However his appointments are all these sort of people. DoD, Secret of Treasury, CIA, Department of Health and Services, etc. Scares me to put these sort of people in power.
Pledged for any future bailouts/stimulus that the bill would be there 5 days before the vote. Congress had 1 hour to read his and used the whole sky is falling routine to push it through. After it was passed he took a 4 day vacation and said there was no rush to sign it.
Mostly those are the things that irk me because those are the main things I looked at in the campaign and each of them was the opposite of what was said. I'm not anti-Obama but I am definitely disappointed. We'll see how this presidency all plays out though in the coming years.
JEDIYoda
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I toally agree!!!
Plus those who might be ashamed that voted for Obama do not live in the real world!
Change takes time. Sure there will be hiccups and other issues and they might even need to try something different. If you expected immediate change then perhaps the problem is not with Obama but with your expectations!!
Change may take time, but apparently spending trillions of dollars and running up our debt takes no time at all, and any spending bills which cross his desk no matter how large, or how complex, get approved nearly immediately. Change may take time, paying off Obama's spending spree may take generations.
I think it's pretty fair to say that more people would be feeling disappointed if they felt that the grass would have been greener on the other side.
Guide to Fear No Evils Posts:
1.) Obama is a debt monger.
2.) Obama is a tool for the left.
3.) Lolchange.
4.) Faux outrage over future generations.
Seriously man, you've said the same thing in like 4 different posts today alone. We get it, you don't like him.
I voted for Obama, and even donated a little bit of money (less than $50) to his campaign and would do it again. After the election I had the attitude, "Ok, he will be president, lets see what what he does." I'm still in that mode and will not pass judgment this early in his term. By no means do I agree with 100% of what he is doing, maybe only 80%, but that is far more than any president in my adult life including Clinton.
Most of those who have been pouting the last 2 months didn't want him, ok, we get it, but for the good of the country give him a chance. I admit, I never liked Bush, but I didn't turn on him until he started pushing for invading Iraq, a whole year into his first term. People on this board have been calling Obama a failure and calling for impeachment 2 weeks into his term. Those same people called everyone else Un -American for not supporting Bush well after he started screwing up, talk about hypocrites.
Most of those who have been pouting the last 2 months didn't want him, ok, we get it, but for the good of the country give him a chance. I admit, I never liked Bush, but I didn't turn on him until he started pushing for invading Iraq, a whole year into his first term. People on this board have been calling Obama a failure and calling for impeachment 2 weeks into his term. Those same people called everyone else Un -American for not supporting Bush well after he started screwing up, talk about hypocrites.
I was a big Obama supporter before the election, for quite awhile (I think I turned in late December or so). I am disappointed the war won't end sooner and that we're holding 50k troops there indefinitely . I'd be more upset with him if we didn't have bigger things to worry about, overall he is what I expected.
That said, considering the alternatives makes me 110% behind him.
That said, considering the alternatives makes me 110% behind him.
sportage
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Not so much Obama.
I never was or had Obamamania and dont understand those who did/do.
I just knew republicans tend to destroy the middleclass economy.
Bush took that to a new level... NUKE the middle class economy.
Reagan started it with his big gov bullcrap and anti union policy.
But democrats do have a huge problem with the attitude they can spend your money
better than you can.
I thought Obama might be willing to merge the two ideals somewhere to a middle point.
But democrats in congress are still running his show. Taking, keeping, and spending your money.
It wasnt republicans that killed the Clinton national healthcare attempt. It was "owned"
democrats in congress. Like the then Senator Mitchell.
Yeah, Obama is doomed by his own party & congress.
And republicans crying over spilt milk... Well thats all lip service, a big act or show, to mark up a few game points.
The problem is all the congress and probably the presidents get so detached.
To them this government thing is just a big game to score point against the other side.
They are all paid well, have national paid healthcare, and decide when they get a raise.
Now wouldnt THAT be a nice perk! Decide your own raise, when and how much!
We're doomed no matter who or what gets in office.
I was thrilled to see American's FINALLY marching in the streets due to the AIG
outrage. Now THAT is what we need a lot more of... Taking to the streets in protest, outrage and anger.
You know... Just like the third world country that we "now" are.
The next thing we need to do is start our tax revolt.
If they don't have it from us to blow, they can't blow it.
But since your taxes are taken before you even see them in your paycheck,
that is going to be a hard one to figure out.
Can you imagine the action or reaction if America's had full control of sending in taxes.
Withholding payment when these leaders just blow your money away.
That would force them to function smart. Put the fear in them.
I never was or had Obamamania and dont understand those who did/do.
I just knew republicans tend to destroy the middleclass economy.
Bush took that to a new level... NUKE the middle class economy.
Reagan started it with his big gov bullcrap and anti union policy.
But democrats do have a huge problem with the attitude they can spend your money
better than you can.
I thought Obama might be willing to merge the two ideals somewhere to a middle point.
But democrats in congress are still running his show. Taking, keeping, and spending your money.
It wasnt republicans that killed the Clinton national healthcare attempt. It was "owned"
democrats in congress. Like the then Senator Mitchell.
Yeah, Obama is doomed by his own party & congress.
And republicans crying over spilt milk... Well thats all lip service, a big act or show, to mark up a few game points.
The problem is all the congress and probably the presidents get so detached.
To them this government thing is just a big game to score point against the other side.
They are all paid well, have national paid healthcare, and decide when they get a raise.
Now wouldnt THAT be a nice perk! Decide your own raise, when and how much!
We're doomed no matter who or what gets in office.
I was thrilled to see American's FINALLY marching in the streets due to the AIG
outrage. Now THAT is what we need a lot more of... Taking to the streets in protest, outrage and anger.
You know... Just like the third world country that we "now" are.
The next thing we need to do is start our tax revolt.
If they don't have it from us to blow, they can't blow it.
But since your taxes are taken before you even see them in your paycheck,
that is going to be a hard one to figure out.
Can you imagine the action or reaction if America's had full control of sending in taxes.
Withholding payment when these leaders just blow your money away.
That would force them to function smart. Put the fear in them.
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