Was Adolf Hitler an Alexander Hamiltonian?

Anarchist420

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I know that could be an oversimplifed explanation, but I wanted some thoughts on whether Hitler was a Hamiltonian. I can't understand why so many people think I'm crazy and/or stupid for believing Hitler was a Hamiltonian.



Anyway, Hamilton was a near philo-semite (or so I heard although he really wasn't... in part, because there are good reasons to believe that the Jews in the early Republic were Jeffersonians and Jacksonians) and Hitler was nearly an anti-semite (I say "nearly" as Hitler wasn't really an anti-semite because he seemed like he loved his mother's doctor). That said, they differed on their relationships with Jews, but other than that I see little difference in the policies they'd enact. Besides, Hamilton could've paved the way for extremely anti-semitic laws in the United States with the necessary and proper clause... especially if a deeply anti-semitic ruling class were to come to power and deem them a threat to the "common defense of the United States".

Please note that I realize that Otto Von Bismarck was really the German precursor to Adolf Hilter, but the discussion about Hitler being a Hamiltonian should stand (in this thread of course).


Now for my question... WHY THE FUCK do you not think Hitler was a Hamiltonian (assuming you believe they were not alike)?


Don't ever forget: I'm happy I wasn't alive when God unleashed one of Hamilton's Furherious Farts on the peoples of Europe.
 

Genx87

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Oh boy, Hitler is a near anti-semite in your world? i dont want to know what it takes to be a full anti-semite.
 

sMiLeYz

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First of all, viewing Germany history through the eyes of American history is fvcktarded at best.

Second, you really should consider what kind of threads you're making
1)Does it have any context with current events?
2)Do my threads have a point or am I ranting about nothing?
3)Do others think I'm trolling or crazy?

If you think long and hard about my points above, you'll get more receptive responses to your ideas.

I'm not holding any hope of that changing soon though.
 

randomrogue

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Your meds are not working.

Not sure if you ever read the Federalist Papers but I didn't walk away from them thinking "Hey, you know what? This reminds me of Hitler"

Seriously, fix the meds.
 

Anarchist420

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I'm not holding any hope of that changing soon though.
It will kind of change but it really won't change:) I'm sorry about that.

Oh boy, Hitler is a near anti-semite in your world?
An anti-semite is someone who hates all Jews (see "the Menace Anti-Anti-Semitism by Dr. Rothbard)... Hitler didn't hate all Jews so he wasn't an anti-semite. Who is a Jew anyway? There are even irish people and Italian people who would be Jews by Jewish law.
 

Anarchist420

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Seriously, fix the meds.
Should I do it or should my psychiatrist do it? I'd rather leave it up to my psychiatrist. When do the meds work, BTW?
Not sure if you ever read the Federalist Papers
I've read some of them.
but I didn't walk away from them thinking "Hey, you know what? This reminds me of Hitler"
They were National Socialist propaganda (i.e., they tried but failed to convince the people to let the elites control them until they got
George[d]idn'tWash[h]isballsington on their side... which related to how Hitler struggled)... The Federalist Party was mercantilist, elitist (as in pro-hierarchy/bureaucratic), and against states' rights (civil liberties) like Hitler was.
 
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Jaskalas

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If this discussion is to be credible, it may require reading the federalist papers. Which case, how many of us in P&N quality to comment? Not me.

OTOH, I could pick a simpler aspect of the topic having nothing to do with Jews. The connection was that they're both pro big-gov fascists. Eh? Easy case, but then again... a majority of Americans are... not sure what we gain by calling them little Hitlers.
 

Genx87

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An anti-semite is someone who hates all Jews (see "the Menace Anti-Anti-Semitism by Dr. Rothbard)... Hitler didn't hate all Jews so he wasn't an anti-semite. Who is a Jew anyway? There are even irish people and Italian people who would be Jews by Jewish law.

You know anything about WWII? Then you would know the Nazi's went after jews in every country they occupied.
 

randomrogue

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Discussing Hamilton without having read the Federalist Papers is a waste of time. Also, bringing anti-semitism into the discussion will ruin it. It's not relevant at all and the simple fact that you don't believe Hitler to be a full fledged Anti-semite completely discredits you.

You need to read the Federalist Papers and visit Auschwitz.
 

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I can't believe the discussion here as devolved into whether or not Hitler of all people was or wasn't an anti-Semite.
 

Anarchist420

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You know anything about WWII? Then you would know the Nazi's went after jews in every country they occupied.
Of course they went after Jews, but they also went after their fellow Nazis. Doesn't change the fact that some of the Nazis were Jews too.
You need to read the Federalist Papers and visit Auschwitz.
I know enough to know that the Federalist Papers were propaganda:) As for visiting Auschwitz... I wish zero Jews had been murdered but I honestly have a hard time believing Hitler was any more of a monster than Mitt Romney would've been. Whether 6 million were murdered or whether 12 million were murdered or whether three were murdered is just a small part of the big picture.

OTOH, I could pick a simpler aspect of the topic having nothing to do with Jews. The connection was that they're both pro big-gov fascists. Eh? Easy case, but then again... a majority of Americans are... not sure what we gain by calling them little Hitlers.
We don't gain much if the majority of Americans aren't willing to realize that the Constitution is socially nationalist.
 

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I wish zero Jews had been murdered but I honestly have a hard time believing Hitler was any more of a monster than Mitt Romney would've been. Whether 6 million were murdered or whether 12 million were murdered or whether three were murdered is just a small part of the big picture.

Yeah, because it's just a trivial detail of whether it was 3 million, 6 million, or 12 million are murdered...... *sarcasm*.

It's a tragedy no matter how many died, but dismissing it just compounds the tragedy.
 

Oyeve

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Meanwhile 27 millions Russians died. Was hitler only semi-anti russian?
 

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Adolf Hitler was a bankster stooge. The big wealthy families ladled billions onto him knowing full well he would do something really stupid with it. I doubt they knew what, exactly, they just knew the end result would be the disposing of millions of useless eaters. People like him and Stalin are put there to serve a purpose. Like a lit torch tossed into a cellar packed full of dynamite. And they served their purpose alright. And you dont read any of it in mainstream history books. The sheeple are not privy to the real paradigm.
 

Capt Caveman

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I wish zero Jews had been murdered but I honestly have a hard time believing Hitler was any more of a monster than Mitt Romney would've been. Whether 6 million were murdered or whether 12 million were murdered or whether three were murdered is just a small part of the big picture.

Stop posting fucktard. This crap no matter what your situation is completing uncalled for and I dislike Romney.
 

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Actually, the entire escapade was in reality a diversion in order that Uncle Adolf could gain unimpeded access to the King of Sweden's penis. The plan was to use the King's penis as the means to transmit the Articles of Confederation to the world- thoughtfully disguised as anti-semitic meat~loaf recipes - and thereby bring about a New Age of Peace, Love, Happiness, and extra FallopianTubes For All.
 

Anarchist420

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It's a tragedy no matter how many died, but dismissing it just compounds the tragedy.
I never dismissed it, I said I wish it could've been zero. I have great sympathy for those poor people murdered by agents of the State and even those who survive have to live with that and it's not good. My point of this thread was that we need to stop believing the State, especially when its worst agents try to ingrain in the minds of its subjects shit like "my country... is right no matter what".

Meanwhile 27 millions Russians died. Was hitler only semi-anti russian?
Read this. As you should be able to tell, the Axis Powers were probably not as bad as the Allied powers going by raw murder count.

The Communists were responsible for the vast, vast, majority of most of those deaths BTW... Russians were unfortunate enough to be the first, second, and last victims of communism. It's about to come here too... the fact that Putin won with 50.1% of the vote the U.S. govt didn't like it and then the latter wound up having it's very own two candidates come that close too about a year later.
Adolf Hitler was a bankster stooge. The big wealthy families ladled billions onto him knowing full well he would do something really stupid with it. I doubt they knew what, exactly, they just knew the end result would be the disposing of millions of useless eaters. People like him and Stalin are put there to serve a purpose. Like a lit torch tossed into a cellar packed full of dynamite. And they served their purpose alright. And you dont read any of it in mainstream history books. The sheeple are not privy to the real paradigm.
+1.:)