Warren ends campaign

[Jhhnn]

Neither of those billionaires were establishment Democrats. The theory is valid.

So what? That doesn't validate Moonbeam's assertion of speculation as fact.

 

[vi edit]

Young voters are overwhelmingly Democratic Party voters. There's no way you can think that a depressed youth turnout isn't a huge problem for Democrats.

Those votes aren't nearly as significant as appealing to the other demographics I listed. Those *WILL* show up and vote and in numbers and in states that swing narrow EC margins.

 

[Blackjack200]

Those votes aren't nearly as significant as appealing to the other demographics I listed. Those *WILL* show up and vote and in numbers and in states that swing narrow EC margins.

I guess we'll see, neither one of us provided any data to support our arguments, so I think we're going on our guts. With EC issues and GOP voter suppression in overdrive, I just don't see how you can be so dismissive of such an important bloc. But again, we'll see.

 

[dank69]

We understand what he’s saying and what he’s saying is pretty stupid. We had two billionaires in the race and neither of them did well so that kind of blows away that theory.

This statement indicates that you do not understand what he is saying at all.

If "the 1%" really favor Biden then they would be trying to program us all, not just black people. Hispanics went for Sanders. Is he saying they aren't as easily programmed?

Black people feel a connection to Biden because he was Obama's VP. Also, older blacks heavily favor moderate candidates. It's just that simple.

I think if you read my post again you will see where I clearly state that the 1% are attempting to program us all, not just black people. The difference, IMO, is that it is very difficult to program any minority to vote Republican, which is what the 1% clearly prefers. Thus, they have to fall back on at least programming them to hate socialism, and as a result of that, hate Sanders/Warren. Why do Hispanics still prefer Sanders? I do not know. Maybe as a people, they have a predisposition for socialist policies that is harder to overcome? Maybe they are not as easily fooled by characterizations of the government working for them instead of against them as "free cookies."

 

[Starbuck1975]

So what? That doesn't validate Moonbeam's assertion of speculation as fact.

It doesn’t dismiss it either.

 

[ivwshane]

This statement indicates that you do not understand what he is saying at all.

I think if you read my post again you will see where I clearly state that the 1% are attempting to program us all, not just black people. The difference, IMO, is that it is very difficult to program any minority to vote Republican, which is what the 1% clearly prefers. Thus, they have to fall back on at least programming them to hate socialism, and as a result of that, hate Sanders/Warren. Why do Hispanics still prefer Sanders? I do not know. Maybe as a people, they have a predisposition for socialist policies that is harder to overcome? Maybe they are not as easily fooled by characterizations of the government working for them instead of against them as "free cookies."

I stand by my statement. You guys are all feels.

 

[BUTCH1]

No way she backs bernie now after the way she's treated him. I used to respect her, but what a horrible person she has become.

Yea, her attacks against Bloomberg went into retard territory, go ahead and make him as a candidate of big money but to claim he told a female employee to "kill it" in reference to her pregnancy was just full retard. You need to completely prove something like that vs the "I believe her" shit Warren threw out there.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Yea, her attacks against Bloomberg went into retard territory, go ahead and make him as a candidate of big money but to claim he told a female employee to "kill it" in reference to her pregnancy was just full retard. You need to completely prove something like that vs the "I believe her" shit Warren threw out there.

Funny how those accusations will largely go ignored or forgotten now that Bloomberg is out of the race. Such a deplorable guy, but his money sure smells good.

 

[dank69]

I stand by my statement. You guys are all feels.

You stand by your statement that if the 1% were trying to influence the electorate to vote against socialism then Bloomberg and Steyer would have done better? That makes no sense since both of them support lots of socialist policies.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yea, her attacks against Bloomberg went into retard territory, go ahead and make him as a candidate of big money but to claim he told a female employee to "kill it" in reference to her pregnancy was just full retard. You need to completely prove something like that vs the "I believe her" shit Warren threw out there.

I don’t think that claim was there for you & I it was there for Women.

 

[dank69]

Funny how those accusations will largely go ignored or forgotten now that Bloomberg is out of the race. Such a deplorable guy, but his money sure smells good.

Ignored by whom? Is there some law against telling a woman to kill it? What do you suggest be done about this injustice?

 

[woolfe9998]

Young voters are overwhelmingly Democratic Party voters. There's no way you can think that a depressed youth turnout isn't a huge problem for Democrats.

Yes if it holds in November it's a problem. Why didn't Sanders bring it out for super Tuesday though?

I have always been skeptical of Sanders being able to bring out a huge influx of voters in that demographic because historically they just don't turn out. I have no doubt that Sanders could bring a higher percentage out than Biden, but how much higher is the key. I tend to think a lot of the strong Sanders supporters in that demographic were already the engaged voting types and that he isn't reaching that far into the larger bloc of them who are not.

 

[JEDIYoda]

It's not about being politically correct. It's about not being a sexist asshole and throwing around terms that reinforce sexist stereotypes.


The Bros will go nuts if Sanders loses, period.

I am sorry that the absolute truth hurts! But truth is truth! If the truth is sexist so be it!!
Seems to me your the one with the problem! Elizabeth Warren is a woman , correct?
As a woman she came accross as an angry old woman! Correct?
Had this been a man who acted like she acted and came acros like she came across the same would have been true!
Have a fun dealing with your sexist problem!!

 

[vi edit]

If a man fights back he's confident.
If a woman does she's a bitch.

Welcome to American perception where we continue to have rampant daddy issues.

 

[Blackjack200]

Yes if it holds in November it's a problem. Why didn't Sanders bring it out for super Tuesday though?

I have always been skeptical of Sanders being able to bring out a huge influx of voters in that demographic because historically they just don't turn out. I have no doubt that Sanders could bring a higher percentage out than Biden, but how much higher is the key. I tend to think a lot of the strong Sanders supporters in that demographic were already the engaged voting types and that he isn't reaching that far into the larger bloc of them who are not.

It's sort of a chicken and egg problem. Part of the reason that young voters are not engaged is because they're alienated. Most of them are poor, most of them are working shit jobs, they live precariously, and in our stratified society, they do not interact at all with the political classes except maybe to refill their coffee or fulfill their Amazon order. They probably won't vote very much until they're more socially integrated with the political classes, but how do get the necessary policies in place for that integration to happen if your group is known for not voting? It's a puzzle that the movement obviously hasn't cracked yet. But I don't think it's right to give up. It's a righteous fight, and it must continue.

 

[BUTCH1]

I don’t think that claim was there for you & I it was there for Women.

I think it was for shock value only and in the end didn't help her at all. At least she could claim "hey! I, at least took down moneybags!". Moneybags does have issues, but in recent years he has been pouring a lot of his $ into Dem coffers.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Ignored by whom? Is there some law against telling a woman to kill it? What do you suggest be done about this injustice?

I was referring to the scurrilous innuendo used to weaken Bloomberg’s presidential ambitions, yet the desire to tap into his vast resources.

 

[Blackjack200]

Funny how those accusations will largely go ignored or forgotten now that Bloomberg is out of the race. Such a deplorable guy, but his money sure smells good.

Take him and his money and fire them into the sun.

 

[BUTCH1]

Ignored by whom? Is there some law against telling a woman to kill it? What do you suggest be done about this injustice?

It's a tough sell for that story to be believable. He probably did say the wrong thing to women on occasion but for someone in his position to say that to a pregnant employee strains credibility IMHO.

 

[Blackjack200]

It's a tough sell for that story to be believable. He probably did say the wrong thing to women on occasion but for someone in his position to say that to a pregnant employee strains credibility IMHO.

That's Wall Street culture to a 'T'. Making gross comments like that is how you prove that you fly above the corporate HR bullshit, no one tells you what to say. It's funny, I work with guys that have some status, but nothing at that level, and they go right up to the line with their frat boy bullshit, but they never fuckin cross it.

 

[BUTCH1]

That's Wall Street culture to a 'T'. Making gross comments like that is how you prove that you fly above the corporate HR bullshit, no one tells you what to say. It's funny, I work with guys that have some status, but nothing at that level, and they go right up to the line with their frat boy bullshit, but they never fuckin cross it.

While I 100% believe that's true I'd hardly call Bloomberg a "frat boy" type.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

While I 100% believe that's true I'd hardly call Bloomberg a "frat boy" type.

As I said in another thread and this isn’t as accurate now as it was years ago.
I have worked in sales organizations that have a very frat boy aggressive culture. Women who work in that environment tend to act more like men than women.
Let me explain this better with examples.
One meeting was interrupted by “Paula” asking “Jorge” the young I’ll call him intern about she saw Jorge’s girlfriend yelling at him.
Her advice was Women like dominant men, he needs to head home tell her he wants to fuck her, throw her on the bed and fuck her.

I’ve had saleswomen who were trying to have a baby say “can I leave early? I’m the right temperature”, which isn’t too weird but the phone call to the Husband was pretty weird. Long time ago but it was pretty much I’m coming home to fuck, you better be ready.

I’ve had lesbian women come in Friday morning and talk about their sexual conquest on Thursday night with a straigh girl.


I suspect the finance industry is similar. This isn’t saying that behavior is right or legal or should be encouraged. Just saying it happens and I’ve seen it happen.

 

[BUTCH1]

The lesbian story sounds fun, should have told her you can get that straight girl "across the fence" with the application of a gushing facial.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The lesbian story sounds fun, should have told her you can get that straight girl "across the fence" with the application of a gushing facial.

She had a real thing for Chinese women.
Sadly she was super screwed up. I wish I had better management skills at that time, I really should have directed her to a treatment place and allow a leave of absence.
One of my regrets in life.

 

[Jhhnn]

I was referring to the scurrilous innuendo used to weaken Bloomberg’s presidential ambitions, yet the desire to tap into his vast resources.

It wasn't innuendo but rather a straight out attack.You engage in enough of it yourself to know what it is.