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realibrad

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Omar F1 said:
All the thousands of different kinds of living creatures shares the same basic functions, while only one arrogant type was given the most perfectionist creation and allowed to advance through the ages.
Yet, prophets were sent with irrefeutable miracles but that creature chose to ignore, distort and lie.

Just look at the inside of yourself, and you should admit that a great crafter is the one who made.

No, there is no God out there.
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Ignoring, distorting, and lying seems to be human nature. I do not see any proof of a god. The only "evidence" I know of, comes from other people, who you already have stated ignore, distort and lie. When I am told that miracles happen, but I just have not seen them, why should I believe them? There are many different gods, and descriptions of gods out there. How do I know which one to believe? Why would I think that any one of them is the right one? Could it not be that all the lying people out there lied and made up the gods?
 
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realibrad said:
So there are different views among Muslims. That does not mean that Gay rights are/is progressing. What was the point of your response?
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The same point in all his responses: to draw a false equivalence.

In his mind if you say muslims compare worse than non-muslims in some category he'll find a single example of muslims performing well in that category and in his view this counteracts your argument.

In other words, it's like you saying smoking is bad for your health and likely to make you die earlier, but he knew a guy who lived longer than the average person and was a smoker, so you're wrong.

Of course the muslim world is wildly behind the west--wildly--when it comes to rights of women and gays, but he cannot accept it, despite voluminous proof of the matter.
 
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realibrad said:
So there are different views among Muslims. That does not mean that Gay rights are/is progressing. What was the point of your response?
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Did you read the link?
Did you miss the part about supporting gay marriage?
What do you need to see to meet your definition of progression?
 
Orignal Earl

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Blanky said:
Of course the muslim world is wildly behind the west--wildly--when it comes to rights of women and gays, but he cannot accept it, despite voluminous proof of the matter.
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The west is a part of the Muslim world



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You're jealous of victorian gray?
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It's obvious your jealous of me.
Every time you see me post you think "OMG I wish I was as cool, handsome and just awesome as Earl"
 
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realibrad

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Orignal Earl said:
Did you read the link?
Did you miss the part about supporting gay marriage?
What do you need to see to meet your definition of progression?
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Yes, I have no doubt that some Muslims are ok of homosexuality. I still don't understand your point though, because this was also in the link.

Some 200 lesbian and gay Muslims were contacted by the programme makers but only a handful were willing to be interviewed, and most of those insisted on keeping their identities hidden, to prevent reprisals. Only one was prepared to show his face and give his true name. He was Adnan Ali, an activist on issues affecting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transsexual Muslims. Adnan described how, when he first came out in Pakistan, he was physically and verbally abused.
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Your logic seems to be that because a very small group is ok with homosexuality, that Islam is reforming. The person asked how gay rights are going among the Muslim community, and you give a link to a documentary that what, represents a very small group of Muslims?

Are you implying that the documentary is indicative of gay rights in the Muslim community? If so, that is a big leap from just one documentary.
 
Orignal Earl

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realibrad said:
Yes, I have no doubt that some Muslims are ok of homosexuality. I still don't understand your point though, because this was also in the link.



Your logic seems to be that because a very small group is ok with homosexuality, that Islam is reforming. The person asked how gay rights are going among the Muslim community, and you give a link to a documentary that what, represents a very small group of Muslims?

Are you implying that the documentary is indicative of gay rights in the Muslim community? If so, that is a big leap from just one documentary.
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So America is pretty far behind in progressing too?
 
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realibrad

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Orignal Earl said:
So America is pretty far behind in progressing too?
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Yes, it is, if you measure where it could and likely should be relative to many European countries in terms of gay rights.

What does that have to do with the question about gay rights in Muslim society? You keep deflecting. Are you trying to imply that people cannot call out bad things in the world, if there are other worse bad things? I am trying not to put words in your mouth, but you seem to have little to no point.

The question was how are gay rights progressing in the Muslim world. If you dont know, thats fine. I personally dont know too much on the topic, but I can say that countries predominately Muslim seem to have very poor gay rights. Is there anything wrong with saying that if its true? I dont see how the USA has anything to do with the previous fact I just said.
 
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Victorian Gray said:
And this one is, like, from a real news source even:

Pastor calls for killing gays to end AIDS

"PHOENIX — A recent anti-homosexual Sunday sermon by Pastor Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe has gotten tens of thousands of views on YouTube. In it, Anderson declares that no "queers" or "homos" are allowed in the church, and never will be as long as he's pastor.

He goes on to say killing gays is the way to an AIDS-free world by Christmas."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-calls-for-killing-gays-to-end-aids/19929973/

Godd sez so.

Oh gee, here's another Godd follower spreading some Christian love:



http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...oning-gays-that-youll-have-to-see-to-believe/

http://pix11.com/2015/06/09/see-it-neighbors-confront-controversial-harlem-pastor-over-church-sign/


It's a funny old world...
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So sick of this bullshit by Islamic apologists where whenever anything is said that is critical of Islam, they try to take down Christianity with it. SO WHAT?

First of all, the topic is Islam, not Christianity.

Second, if Islam is a turd then it doesn't get any less turdy by pointing out Christianity is also a turd, especially when Islam is the smellier, bigger turd.

Third, Islam is as it is practiced is more hostile to homosexuality than Christianity. Fact.

Anyway I think most Muslims are good people but their religion is ...ugh. Same with Christians, most of them are good people but the religion is... ugh. If they weren't so popular, people would think they are stupid cults. (And they are.) Why do people keep clinging to fairytales? It is possible to have a moral life without resorting to fairytales of sky people.
 
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Orignal Earl

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blastingcap said:
Third, Islam is as it is practiced is more hostile to homosexuality than Christianity. Fact.

Anyway I think most Muslims are good people but their religion is ...ugh. Same with Christians, most of them are good people but the religions... ugh. If they weren't so popular, people would think they are stupid cults. (And they are.) Why do people keep clinging to fairytales? It is possible to have a moral life without resorting to fairytales of sky people.
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Well no, there is no one way to practice Islam. The same with Christianity.

Anti-gay is a cultural thing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...are-most-and-least-tolerant-of-homosexuality/
 
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Victorian Gray

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blastingcap said:
So sick of this bullshit by Islamic apologists where whenever anything is said that is critical of Islam, they try to take down Christianity with it. SO WHAT?

First of all, the topic is Islam, not Christianity.

Second, if Islam is a turd then it doesn't get any less turdy by pointing out Christianity is also a turd, especially when Islam is the smellier, bigger turd.

Third, Islam is as it is practiced is more hostile to homosexuality than Christianity. Fact.

Anyway I think most Muslims are good people but their religion is ...ugh. Same with Christians, most of them are good people but the religion is... ugh. If they weren't so popular, people would think they are stupid cults. (And they are.) Why do people keep clinging to fairytales? It is possible to have a moral life without resorting to fairytales of sky people.
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"Whoosh". That was the sound of a point passing over your head.

Go back and re-read the posts before mine and think about it all for a while.

Or not, and continue to froth about Islam. Your choice. Have fun either way.
 
blastingcap

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Victorian Gray said:
"Whoosh". That was the sound of a point passing over your head.

Go back and re-read the posts before mine and think about it all for a while.

Or not, and continue to froth about Islam. Your choice. Have fun either way.
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You're so full of it. Yes, I encourage people to read the posts above yours in this thread. Anyone who DOES read the posts knows it's more deflection from our resident Islamic apologist.
 
davmat787

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Atreus21 said:
Crazed zealot Christian pastors saying we should kill gays.

Crazed zealot Muslim terrorists throwing them off tall buildings in Mosul.

How many gays have Christians murdered again? This year?
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Those videos of supposed gays being thrown off buildings has to be the most disturbing thing I've watched in a long time. Something about the joy they took in the heinous acts and the rejoicing afterwards really made it stand out among all sorts of horrible videos coming out of Syria and Iraq.
 
Orignal Earl

Orignal Earl

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TheSlamma said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations


Pick one.. they all want it that way. Go ahead knock ISIS down, there are HUNDREDS more ready to step in their place and carry on Mohammeds hatred for infidels
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No
Just because a terror group is made up of Muslims doesn't mean that the group is a religious terror group.
Dozens of them are all located in Gaza alone, none of them are a religious terror group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_terrorism
 
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