warm...newegg has the ecs k7s5a backin stock $57
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Warm? I don't know about you, but to me this is DAMN HOT.
I mean, when has there ever been a mobo of this quality for $57.00??
And the reason to me that it's hot is that it's through NewEgg, so you know it will be new and you know you'll get it, and it's cheaper than almost anywhere else.
Heck, you can't even buy it on eGay for $57.00
I mean, when has there ever been a mobo of this quality for $57.00??
And the reason to me that it's hot is that it's through NewEgg, so you know it will be new and you know you'll get it, and it's cheaper than almost anywhere else.
Heck, you can't even buy it on eGay for $57.00
I need a bundle deal w/processor like the one at Frys . I am skeptical of the ECS because it is a PCCHIPS brand but you just done hear many bad this about this board.
well...it's not exactly a new deal? haha...i thought i'd be flamed and thread crapped all over if i claimed this to be a hot deal 
got you beat
$39.00 shipped refurbed at newegg.
- best 39 bucks ever spent. came in LIKE NEW condition, with retail box, cables, manuals, etc.
I couldn't even tell it was refurbed.
$39.00 shipped refurbed at newegg.
- best 39 bucks ever spent. came in LIKE NEW condition, with retail box, cables, manuals, etc.
I couldn't even tell it was refurbed.
<< Heck, you can't even buy it on >> eGay << for $57.00 >>
Tell me...why is it always "eGay" or "fleaBay" or other follow the crowd knock term?? Think for yourself and admit eBay is the bomb!
When this board works, it is an incredible value. But some folks have had problems with it.
Check out this forum for background:
OCWorkbench ECS Forum
And this thread in particular:
K7S5A Data Corruption Thread
The risk of having the data corruption problem is apparently linked to the CPU selected. XP CPUs seem to do very well while 1.4 GHz Athlons seem especially troublesome.
For this reason, it might be a good idea to buy this board from a local retailer in case you need to return or exchange it.
If you do go mail order, newegg is certainly one of the very best places to select.
Bob
Check out this forum for background:
OCWorkbench ECS Forum
And this thread in particular:
K7S5A Data Corruption Thread
The risk of having the data corruption problem is apparently linked to the CPU selected. XP CPUs seem to do very well while 1.4 GHz Athlons seem especially troublesome.
For this reason, it might be a good idea to buy this board from a local retailer in case you need to return or exchange it.
If you do go mail order, newegg is certainly one of the very best places to select.
Bob
The thing to remember is that newegg has a very good RMA process. And with the k7s5a, you will need it. The failure rate with 1.4 tbirds exceeds 50%!!! These deal is only good if you get one of those golden boards that work. Don't believe me, look for yourself at ocworkbench ecs forum or the forum here at anandtech.
I am not trying to slam the thread or flame anyone. I'm just trying to let you know these boards would not be a good deal at $5/each.
And yes I am a victim myself. I have four k7s5a boards that I have been doing a RMA round robin to newegg. I am replacing them with other mobo's as I can afford to buy them. For me it has been very expensive in time and moderate in cost (orig price+shipping+rma's).
I am not trying to slam the thread or flame anyone. I'm just trying to let you know these boards would not be a good deal at $5/each.
And yes I am a victim myself. I have four k7s5a boards that I have been doing a RMA round robin to newegg. I am replacing them with other mobo's as I can afford to buy them. For me it has been very expensive in time and moderate in cost (orig price+shipping+rma's).
Hey I love eBay... I just said 'eGay' because it seems to be part of that "cool" jargon that I'm not hip with since I'm in my late 20's...
It goes something like this: "eGay r0x0rz j00!"
Any young'ns out there correct me if my grammar is wrong.
It goes something like this: "eGay r0x0rz j00!"
Any young'ns out there correct me if my grammar is wrong.
That 50% rma rate has got to be complete crap. No company would continue selling something if they got 50% rma'ed. As usual I'm sure this is based on a survey of those with bad experiences on some web site that the people with no problems never go to.
Don't get me wrong, there are certainly boards with problems, and I'm sure more than you would get with a more reputable $125 board. But I could just as easily say that since I built 1 system with this board and it worked great, clearly there's a 100% success rate.
Don't get me wrong, there are certainly boards with problems, and I'm sure more than you would get with a more reputable $125 board. But I could just as easily say that since I built 1 system with this board and it worked great, clearly there's a 100% success rate.
Are you running the problematic 1.4 GHz Athlon?
Bob
<< That 50% rma rate has got to be complete crap. No company would continue selling something if they got 50% rma'ed. As usual I'm sure this is based on a survey of those with bad experiences on some web site that the people with no problems never go to.
Don't get me wrong, there are certainly boards with problems, and I'm sure more than you would get with a more reputable $125 board. But I could just as easily say that since I built 1 system with this board and it worked great, clearly there's a 100% success rate. >>
Bob
<< That 50% rma rate has got to be complete crap. No company would continue selling something if they got 50% rma'ed. As usual I'm sure this is based on a survey of those with bad experiences on some web site that the people with no problems never go to.
Don't get me wrong, there are certainly boards with problems, and I'm sure more than you would get with a more reputable $125 board. But I could just as easily say that since I built 1 system with this board and it worked great, clearly there's a 100% success rate.
>>got in on fry's deal on K7s5a and XP 1700+ . Borad runs rock solid on this XP.
Better pick an XP.....................
Better pick an XP.....................
Board sells for $59 regular price at Chips & Memory B&M for you San Diego folks. it's $64 @ San Diego Fry's....
Everyone says the new CPUs work well, but faster Althons don't work well...anyone have any luck with older Althons and Durons?
im2smrt4u
im2smrt4u
From reading the various forums I've seen a lot of folks having success with the Sub 1 MHz CPUs such a an 800MHz Duron.
Bob
<< Everyone says the new CPUs work well, but faster Althons don't work well...anyone have any luck with older Althons and Durons?
im2smrt4u >>
Bob
<< Everyone says the new CPUs work well, but faster Althons don't work well...anyone have any luck with older Althons and Durons?
im2smrt4u >>
BobF: yes I am running 1.4s. Since that is what is advertized, I believed them and I got the boards before this problem was discovered.
irrigating: Am I perfectly qualified? no. I have built ~15 working systems. Does your mother dress you funny? yes.
In general, I would agree with you. If you have a customer with multiple returns of a product, it is logical to think the customer is doing something incorrect. Two items point to other causes:
I wanted this mobo to succeed, you know, take a little air out of Asus, Abit, etc. (maybe cause everybody to lower their prices) Also, I realize all mobo's have problems. That being said, the 1.4/k7s5a is a real bad pair.
Like I said before read some of the posts. MrAthlons testing had 26 of 27 with memory errors!!! Some posts are newbies "I put the ram in backwards, what do I do now?" but many are by technically competent people having similar problems.
jwong: your "50% rma is crap" is hopefully true. My personal RMA rate is 60% with this board. It is worth noting that the only faulty electronic equipment I have ever RMA'd was a Mag monitor ~8 yrs ago and three of five k7s5a's. I am one of the lucky ones. At least I have two boards that work. This will be the last k7s5a RMA for me. It costs $10 each time I ship one back. The next one that goes bad will be subjected to the "resistor fix".
I closing, this mobo can be great. If you get one, I hope it never goes bad. I was just trying to educate the buyers.
irrigating: Am I perfectly qualified? no. I have built ~15 working systems. Does your mother dress you funny? yes.
In general, I would agree with you. If you have a customer with multiple returns of a product, it is logical to think the customer is doing something incorrect. Two items point to other causes:
--both problem types I have encountered has been detailed by many, many, many people at OCWorkbench Forum.
--one board worked perfectly under heavy loads for 8 weeks, a second for 10 weeks, and the two other boards are still working since early Sept.
I wanted this mobo to succeed, you know, take a little air out of Asus, Abit, etc. (maybe cause everybody to lower their prices
) Also, I realize all mobo's have problems. That being said, the 1.4/k7s5a is a real bad pair.Like I said before read some of the posts. MrAthlons testing had 26 of 27 with memory errors!!! Some posts are newbies "I put the ram in backwards, what do I do now?" but many are by technically competent people having similar problems.
jwong: your "50% rma is crap" is hopefully true. My personal RMA rate is 60% with this board. It is worth noting that the only faulty electronic equipment I have ever RMA'd was a Mag monitor ~8 yrs ago and three of five k7s5a's. I am one of the lucky ones. At least I have two boards that work. This will be the last k7s5a RMA for me. It costs $10 each time I ship one back. The next one that goes bad will be subjected to the "resistor fix".
I closing, this mobo can be great. If you get one, I hope it never goes bad. I was just trying to educate the buyers.
boa wrote:
"The thing to remember is that newegg has a very good RMA process. And with the k7s5a, you will need it. The failure rate with 1.4 tbirds exceeds 50%!!! These deal is only good if you get one of those golden boards that work. Don't believe me, look for yourself at ocworkbench ecs forum or the forum here at anandtech."
Oh, baloney. It isn't 50%, or NewEgg would pull the plug on 'em -- just as they recently did with all Epox mainboards.
That said, the reason so many people have 'trouble' is often related to their configuration. You can't expect to throw in a generic 250w supply with old generic RAM and a Socket 7 heatsink/fan and expect it to work. Although, apparently, some people get lucky
The low price of this board has brought out all the newbies -- and they're making mistakes.
"The thing to remember is that newegg has a very good RMA process. And with the k7s5a, you will need it. The failure rate with 1.4 tbirds exceeds 50%!!! These deal is only good if you get one of those golden boards that work. Don't believe me, look for yourself at ocworkbench ecs forum or the forum here at anandtech."
Oh, baloney. It isn't 50%, or NewEgg would pull the plug on 'em -- just as they recently did with all Epox mainboards.
That said, the reason so many people have 'trouble' is often related to their configuration. You can't expect to throw in a generic 250w supply with old generic RAM and a Socket 7 heatsink/fan and expect it to work. Although, apparently, some people get lucky
The low price of this board has brought out all the newbies -- and they're making mistakes.
While I don't know if boa is an inexperienced builder or not [Edit: I didn't see that boa posted at nearly the same time as I did! With 15 systems under his belt I would think he could avoid the inexperienced label. ], I do know there *are* experienced builders that have had multiple boards with problems. Check out the OCWorkbench forums, or the Sharky forums or the amdmb.com forums. MrAthlon, who started the "K7S5A Data Corruption" thread that I linked above, had 26 of 27 (!) board that had problems with the 1.4 GHz Athlon. And all of these same boards worked just fine with a 1800+ XP that he had.
I'm not trying to trash the K7S5A here. I'm very close to buying one myself. I just want folks to be aware of potential problems and perhaps steer them towards CPUs that appear to work better.
Bob
<< EDIT: Chances of getting four bad motherboards from newegg= inexperienced builder. >>
], I do know there *are* experienced builders that have had multiple boards with problems. Check out the OCWorkbench forums, or the Sharky forums or the amdmb.com forums. MrAthlon, who started the "K7S5A Data Corruption" thread that I linked above, had 26 of 27 (!) board that had problems with the 1.4 GHz Athlon. And all of these same boards worked just fine with a 1800+ XP that he had.I'm not trying to trash the K7S5A here. I'm very close to buying one myself. I just want folks to be aware of potential problems and perhaps steer them towards CPUs that appear to work better.
Bob
<< EDIT: Chances of getting four bad motherboards from newegg= inexperienced builder. >>
I installed 98SE, ME, XP and play every kind of games on my K7S5A+TB 1.4G. I never get problem.
KT266A is a little bit better, but it still conflict with the live! card which is the standard of soundcard. SiS never has problem. This is the bargain MB with top performance!
KT266A is a little bit better, but it still conflict with the live! card which is the standard of soundcard. SiS never has problem. This is the bargain MB with top performance!
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