The pro version of the k7s5a that the Industry store had was rma city. I had a total of four DOA's out of ten. Three I returned and one I sent to ECS because it was after the return period specified by Fry's. Once you get them started they are fairly solid. I went through at least 15 non-pros from Industry without a problem. Lately I've been buying them from the Anaheim store that has good boards. The bad boards at Industry were probably a local problem. I have been in contact with other sys builders that have mixed results. QC at ECS is not Asus, or Abit. RMA at ECS is fast and not a hassle.