Warm Deal? Windows 2K OEM $139
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not a deal at all.
why buy OEM?
it's illegal to buy any OEM M$ software and install it in your personal computer or computers at work. it's also illegal for a vendor (or VAR) to sell to end-user customers. it's only legal of you are buying as a system integrator, for use to resell a computer with the OEM license and provide support to your customer.
so why buy OEM and pay for something that's illegal? might as well look harder to get it for much much less.
Greg: there are about 4 versions (or models) of W2K, but there is only one version of W2K Professional.
why buy OEM?
it's illegal to buy any OEM M$ software and install it in your personal computer or computers at work. it's also illegal for a vendor (or VAR) to sell to end-user customers. it's only legal of you are buying as a system integrator, for use to resell a computer with the OEM license and provide support to your customer.
so why buy OEM and pay for something that's illegal? might as well look harder to get it for much much less.
Greg: there are about 4 versions (or models) of W2K, but there is only one version of W2K Professional.
<< not a deal at all.
why buy OEM?
it's illegal to buy any OEM M$ software and install it in your personal computer or computers at work. it's also illegal for a vendor (or VAR) to sell to end-user customers. it's only legal of you are buying as a system integrator, for use to resell a computer with the OEM license and provide support to your customer.
so why buy OEM and pay for something that's illegal? might as well look harder to get it for much much less.
Greg: there are about 4 versions (or models) of W2K, but there is only one version of W2K Professional. >>
Unless you buy with a CPU, HD, or Mobo. Than it is perfectly legal.
No, it's not legal to buy an OEM copy of Windows if you buy additional hardware.
Each OEM vendor licenses Windows from Microsoft and agrees to sell it only with a new computer.
This is most certainly illegal.
Each OEM vendor licenses Windows from Microsoft and agrees to sell it only with a new computer.
This is most certainly illegal.
I work at a major computer reseller, and it is NOT illegal to sell OEM software as long as it is with a major PC component (HD, CPU, MB), and warranty and support is offered. Atleast it is not illegal for us to do so, per MS.
<< No, it's not legal to buy an OEM copy of Windows if you buy additional hardware.
Each OEM vendor licenses Windows from Microsoft and agrees to sell it only with a new computer.
This is most certainly illegal. >>
According to HP and M$ if you replace the mobo, cpu, or HD, you have a new computer. That is why it is legal.
However my thought is if we buy one of these things, we just upgraded and not bought a new machine.
Dunno how good a deal it is, but selling OEM versions of Windows with any major hardware upgrade was part of Microsoft's "Get Legal" program as of last year. Anyway, the proviso of buying some major bit of hardware was and apparently is being ignored by some vendors. Microsoft is clearly very lax on enforcement of this particular deal (why should they care?), and it's not a legal issue for the buyer in any event. How can buying a genuine version from an authorized vendor be illegal for a private citizen? Any onus would be on the vendor, not the buyer.
Pricewatch is full of these deals, some of them cheaper than TC computers. Order just the software, odds are they'll ship it. Oops!
Pricewatch is full of these deals, some of them cheaper than TC computers. Order just the software, odds are they'll ship it. Oops!
Scarpozzi
Lifer
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Ok....here it goes... It IS legal to buy OEM with a component. However, the deal with OEM is that you are not buying Microsoft Support. If you actually purchase the version from Microsoft, THEY are responsible if it doesn't work. However, anyone that sells OEM is supposed to offer support for the copies they sell.
Hmm lets see, so its like this.
You buy an OEM copy with no major hardware, thats wrong.
You buy an OEM copy with a HDD or CPU or MBD, thats ok.
If the vendor sells you an OEM copy without requiring a major component purchase, they are in the wrong.
If the vendor refuses to support the OEM version they sold you, they are in the wrong.
If the vendor only lets you purchase OEM version with major hardware components and will support the OEM version they sold you, they are doing the right thing.
Any questions?
You buy an OEM copy with no major hardware, thats wrong.
You buy an OEM copy with a HDD or CPU or MBD, thats ok.
If the vendor sells you an OEM copy without requiring a major component purchase, they are in the wrong.
If the vendor refuses to support the OEM version they sold you, they are in the wrong.
If the vendor only lets you purchase OEM version with major hardware components and will support the OEM version they sold you, they are doing the right thing.
Any questions?
apoppin
Lifer
<< $110 at 9Software - No COA >>
Well that is totally lame. The CD itself is only worth $0.15 without the COA.
apoppin
Lifer
<< Well that is totally lame. The CD itself is only worth $0.15 without the COA. >>
You're the expert.
It is a FULL version OEM CD (manufactured by MS with hologram) )of Win2KPro with the license on the CD. It IS legal and it installs nicely on one's computer and can be registered with MS.
The COA is worth perhaps $0.10 to any home user. (Not so for a business user with multiple licenses.)
If you have any objection to an OEM WIN2K CD being sold without COA, perhaps you should report them to MS. AFAIK #9Software is totally legit and ships promptly with good Customer Service.
BTW, I got the WIN2K Pro OEM UPGRADE (good for a new install) for $68 from them a few months ago and registered it with MS.
<< It is a FULL version OEM CD (manufactured by MS with hologram) )of Win2KPro with the license on the CD. It IS legal and it installs nicely on one's computer and can be registered with MS. >>
OEM or retail, the owner must have a COA (certificate of authenthicity) as proof of ownership. OEM is still OEM. OEM with COA is still illegal if you were sold w/out the required hardware.
<< If you have any objection to an OEM WIN2K CD being sold without COA, perhaps you should report them to MS. AFAIK #9Software is totally legit and ships promptly with good Customer Service. >>
try asking #9 if it's legal for them to sell OEM to an end-user and see what they'll say. most shops "assume" that the buyer is a system integrator. if M$ comes knocking on your door (which is very unlikely) and see that you have a receipt for the computer w/out the OEM OS listed, you'll be at fault.
<< BTW, I got the WIN2K Pro OEM UPGRADE (good for a new install) for $68 from them a few months ago and registered it with MS. >>
Register your applications with MS doesn't mean anything. You won't get anything out of it. If you use a pirated CD you can still register with M$. But that'll be a stupid thing to do. All you're doing when you're registering is giving M$ your personal information.
Let's end this thread. If you guys are interested, go to www.microsoft.com/piracy/. I've read it, that's why i felt i have enough knowledge to share in this thread. I've also talked to vendors like #9Software.
apoppin
Lifer
<< . I've read it, that's why i felt i have enough knowledge to share in this thread. I've also talked to vendors like #9Software. >>
And? Why are they still in business?
In my case, Wink2K Upgrade went very well with my Maxtor 30GB hard drive purchase. So do you think I should really worry that MS will come calling?
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