Ward's Ten Best Engines 2010

canadageek

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I like that the only V-8 is Korean. Good on Hyundai, seriously. They're coming into their own as a respectable manufacturer.
 

PricklyPete

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Woohoo...the engine in our new car is there.

I read somewhere that there is a price limit ($54K or so) that they limit the selection to...so that is the reason engines like the Porsche flat 6, BMW V8's, AMG 6.3L, or Lambo V10's don't make it on the list.
 

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Woohoo...the engine in our new car is there.

I read somewhere that there is a price limit ($54K or so) that they limit the selection to...so that is the reason engines like the Porsche flat 6, BMW V8's, AMG 6.3L, or Lambo V10's don't make it on the list.

From the wardsauto.com article:
"To be eligible for the competition, each engine must be available in a regular-production U.S.-specification model on sale no later than first-quarter 2010, in a vehicle priced no more than $54,000, a price cap indexed to the average cost of a new vehicle."
 

KIAman

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Wow, that is the first time I have NOT seen BMW's standard I6 on that list.

Well, the Turbodiesel I-6 is there.

I have a feeling the new single-turbo BMW I-6 making the same horsepower/torque will make it on the list next year.
 

ElFenix

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if the 5L coyote were announced already (and actually hits 400/400) it'd probably be on that list
 

exdeath

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I like that the only V-8 is Korean. Good on Hyundai, seriously. They're coming into their own as a respectable manufacturer.

You already knew they weren't going to have (m)any high performance engines on the list before you even saw it:

Efficiency Drives 2010 Ward’s Best Engines Choices

SOUTHFIELD, MI – Five all-new powertrains win Ward’s 10 Best Engines honors this year, and each one demonstrates the auto industry’s swift movement toward downsized engines to attract consumers who now are making fuel efficiency a top priority.

The whole review is eco biased, and has nothing to do with "best engines" unless your only criteria is MPG and small size.
 
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Pulsar

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if the 5L coyote were announced already (and actually hits 400/400) it'd probably be on that list

It's hit WAY more....=). Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on the camp you're in) we'll probably be careful and leave it tuned way down. Which just means more fun in the aftermarket.
 

Pulsar

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You already knew they weren't going to have (m)any high performance engines on the list before you even saw it:

Efficiency Drives 2010 Ward’s Best Engines Choices

SOUTHFIELD, MI – Five all-new powertrains win Ward’s 10 Best Engines honors this year, and each one demonstrates the auto industry’s swift movement toward downsized engines to attract consumers who now are making fuel efficiency a top priority.

The whole review is eco biased, and has nothing to do with "best engines" unless your only criteria is MPG and small size.

Really? The sho engine isn't a performance engine?
 

KIAman

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if the 5L coyote were announced already (and actually hits 400/400) it'd probably be on that list

I read somewhere that 5.0 makes more power and is detuned for consistent 400/400. Wowzers. Can't wait for an ecoboost 5.0. That would be a monster.
 

KIAman

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Here's something to think about. The Tau V8 makes 375hp/333lb while getting 17/25mpg. The Ecoboost 3.5 makes 365hp/350lb while getting 16/25.

Now which engine would you rather have under your hood?
 

exdeath

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Really? The sho engine isn't a performance engine?

It obviously wasn't included in the list for it's performance and MPG (V8 performance = V8 MPG).

The Tau and EcoBoost engines are the only two that stand out on that list as not being "small and green"; The EcoBoost probably got a free pass because of it's emotionally manipulating and deceptive namesake. Not sure why the Tau made the list however.
 
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NutBucket

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You guys are funny. A 265hp turbocharged engine isn't green any way you slice it. The only way a Subaru achieves 30 mpg is driving it like a grandpa, no matter which engine you've got.
 

ayabe

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You guys are funny. A 265hp turbocharged engine isn't green any way you slice it. The only way a Subaru achieves 30 mpg is driving it like a grandpa, no matter which engine you've got.

The NA 2.5 with the CVT gets close to that.

Still need some direct injection action, simply relocating the turbo doesn't seem all that innovative to me. Sure it's got a flat TQ curve now, but other MFG's have had that for a few years now.
 

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Here's something to think about. The Tau V8 makes 375hp/333lb while getting 17/25mpg. The Ecoboost 3.5 makes 365hp/350lb while getting 16/25.

Now which engine would you rather have under your hood?

i'll take engines with tabletop torque curves for $500, alex