Warcraft III...

Electric Amish

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SUCKS ASS!!!!!!

It's a freakin' cross-breed of Starcraft and Warcraft II. With a new 3D engine.

The Undead are just like the Zerg. The Dark Elves are just like the Protoss.

There's STILL no way to trade/sell resources to get more gold.

The gold that IS available is totally limited and all the units/building require too much gold to produce with the limitation of the resource.

It STILL has the same fvcked up, cheating Computer Player AI.

WTF WERE YOU DOING FOR 3 GOD DAMN YEARS, BLIZZARD!!!!

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I've done the entire single campaign and dozens of hours in multiplay. I personally hated Starcraft but I think that War3 rocks.
 

Czar

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heyyy, its a great game
same as the old ones only better :)

just remember greedisgood ;)
 

Utterman

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It's a great game for the $30 I paid. I think it is well worth the price with the multiplayer alone. I still play startcraft every once in a while, and I know that warcraft 3 will be the same unless that charge for multiplayer.
 

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
I agree, EA, it sucks. I tried it this weekend and all I can say is I'm re-installing WC2.
If you're gonna install a 5-6 year old game to play you've got bigger problems than war3 :Q
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Beau6183
I agree, EA, it sucks. I tried it this weekend and all I can say is I'm re-installing WC2.
If you're gonna install a 5-6 year old game to play you've got bigger problems than war3 :Q

Hey, WC2, IMO, was the best *craft game made.
 

Adul

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i happen to like warcraft 3. it happens to require more managment on ones part with resources and unit managment. Like how you can make you units last longer with your hero etc.. it is not a bunch of mindless rushing. :p
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Beau6183
I agree, EA, it sucks. I tried it this weekend and all I can say is I'm re-installing WC2.
If you're gonna install a 5-6 year old game to play you've got bigger problems than war3 :Q

Hey, WC2, IMO, was the best *craft game made.

Yeah, because it was the first. :)

It's only saving grace is the Single Player Campaign. That's the only thing Blizzard has managed to get right.


For those of you who like it....

Don't you feel cheated after 3+ years of development to get a game with the same re-hashed gameplay?

amish

Edit-

Oh yeah.... As usual, Ensemble Studios will own W3 with Age of Mythology. Ensemble Studios....RTS done right. ;)
 

mchammer187

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I luv it and think it is a fantastic game :D

I had a "warez" copy of the beta but i bought 2 legit copies (one collector one regular) because i think the game is that good

the ppl that complain it sux need to play it a lot. (for multiplayer anyway)

I did not find it to be that great but now that I'm good 24-4 (3 were discs that I was winning stupid modem :( )

the game gets a lot better once you figure out what works well against what damage types , strats , and heroes

and finding yourself a good build order but once you start putting the beat down on multiplayer it gets extremely fun

though IMO it will never be as good as Starcraft

the only bad thing is you get a loss even if you get disc'ed during the load screen which i think is dumb but I dont care its a great game

I will be become ranked very soon :D
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Electric AmishFor those of you who like it....

Don't you feel cheated after 3+ years of development to get a game with the same re-hashed gameplay?

amish

Edit-

Oh yeah.... As usual, Ensemble Studios will own W3 with Age of Mythology. Ensemble Studios....RTS done right. ;)
Not at all, they took gameplay that works and did it extremely well.
Looking forward to Age of mythology as well :)

even after all those years no rts game can come close to Total Ahnihilation

 

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You guys try Emperor: Battle for Dune. It's not the newest game, but it beats each and every Blizzard game, IMO. It got a few very funny things in it. Like when that Devastator tank says:' Radiation level high but not toxic'. It says it in such a way that it freaks me out! And the movies are so funny they make me LMAO.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Electric AmishFor those of you who like it....

Don't you feel cheated after 3+ years of development to get a game with the same re-hashed gameplay?

amish

Edit-

Oh yeah.... As usual, Ensemble Studios will own W3 with Age of Mythology. Ensemble Studios....RTS done right. ;)
Not at all, they took gameplay that works and did it extremely well.
Looking forward to Age of mythology as well :)

even after all those years no rts game can come close to Total Ahnihilation

I never played TA.

If you like the W3 style, you should try Kohan. Way better, IMO.

amish
 

gopunk

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quit your whining, i don't see why you should feel cheated by the length of time it took them, unless you own stock in them or something.

basically you don't like it because it's not like AOE or something... well that's nice but doesn't mean it sucks. has it ever occured to you that the limitation of gold was deliberately designed to force players to play a certain way? your frustration with that doesn't mean the game sucks.

and your comparisons are silly... how are the undead like the zerg? because they're ugly?

and frankly, i'm happy that the *crafts haven't changed much. i was worried that this game would be too different.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I never played TA.

If you like the W3 style, you should try Kohan. Way better, IMO.

amish
Just for the hell of it, TA is very cheap now if you can get it, buy it when you have time, who doesnt like 500 unit limits along with huge amount of unit types to build :) and maps with unlimited resources :D

Never heard of Kohan, got link?

 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: gopunk
quit your whining, i don't see why you should feel cheated by the length of time it took them, unless you own stock in them or something.

basically you don't like it because it's not like AOE or something... well that's nice but doesn't mean it sucks. has it ever occured to you that the limitation of gold was deliberately designed to force players to play a certain way? your frustration with that doesn't mean the game sucks.

and your comparisons are silly... how are the undead like the zerg? because they're ugly?

and frankly, i'm happy that the *crafts haven't changed much. i was worried that this game would be too different.

I'm complaining because it took them 3 years and they have the same god-damned game with a 3d engine. They didn't fix any of the short-comings all the other *craft games had. Basically they took the Starcraft backend and pasted a new 3D front-end on it....in 3 years.
rolleye.gif


Undead are like the Zerg in that they can only build on the "creep".

amish
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I never played TA.

If you like the W3 style, you should try Kohan. Way better, IMO.

amish
Just for the hell of it, TA is very cheap now if you can get it, buy it when you have time, who doesnt like 500 unit limits along with huge amount of unit types to build :) and maps with unlimited resources :D

Never heard of Kohan, got link?

Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns

amish
 

Phuz

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I've done the entire single campaign and dozens of hours in multiplay. I personally hated Starcraft but I think that War3 rocks.


I swear! It's a pattern i've said so many times.

Warcraft 2 fans love Warcraft 3, but dislike Starcraft (or didn't enjoy it)
Starcraft fans disliked Warcraft 2 but kind of like Warcraft 3/



 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I never played TA.

If you like the W3 style, you should try Kohan. Way better, IMO.

amish
Just for the hell of it, TA is very cheap now if you can get it, buy it when you have time, who doesnt like 500 unit limits along with huge amount of unit types to build :) and maps with unlimited resources :D

Never heard of Kohan, got link?

Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns

amish
hmm, looks exactly like AOE

 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I've done the entire single campaign and dozens of hours in multiplay. I personally hated Starcraft but I think that War3 rocks.


I swear! It's a pattern i've said so many times.

Warcraft 2 fans love Warcraft 3, but dislike Starcraft (or didn't enjoy it)
Starcraft fans disliked Warcraft 2 but kind of like Warcraft 3/

war 2 was good
war 3 ownz
starcraft ownz all :D


 

gopunk

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I'm complaining because it took them 3 years and they have the same god-damned game with a 3d engine. They didn't fix any of the short-comings all the other *craft games had. Basically they took the Starcraft backend and pasted a new 3D front-end on it....in 3 years.
rolleye.gif


Undead are like the Zerg in that they can only build on the "creep".

amish


they didn't "fix" the "shortcomings" because they don't view limited resources as a short coming. come on, anyone that's done any programming knows that it would be a relatively simple thing to implement. seems obvious to me that they did it for gameplay reasons.

and they did fix plenty of shortcomings... units move when you want to build somewhere they're standing on, people don't get stuck behind buildings (as much), you can tilt and rotate the camera, you can see the area and units a spell will have effect on, etc etc etc.

okay so basically they're ugly and can only build on "the creep". other than that, they're really not that similar, imo. instead of moving transporting farms, they have stationary fighting farms... meat wagons... and it's not like the zergling could gather resources.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I never played TA.

If you like the W3 style, you should try Kohan. Way better, IMO.

amish
Just for the hell of it, TA is very cheap now if you can get it, buy it when you have time, who doesnt like 500 unit limits along with huge amount of unit types to build :) and maps with unlimited resources :D

Never heard of Kohan, got link?

Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns

amish
hmm, looks exactly like AOE


It has Heroes like W3, though they don't increase in levels.

It's one step away from building in that, you just have your town and you upgrade things within it.

You don't have to search out resources, though there are some available to help increase your productivity. You just have to build upgrades to your town to give you the correct ratio of gold vs. other items.

I thought it was very inventive and well done. The computer AI is pretty good too. :)

amish