warcraft III and radeon 9700pro

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Ninepepper

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It's a rarity for blizzard but....it has YET to be fixed. Initially blizzard made statements in their support forum asserting that they could not reproduce the problem in-house. As of now, no patch as been produced to fix the problems.
 

jiffylube1024

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I have the same problem as you and have found a solution that works for me anyways. I have a P4 1.8A @ 2.25 GHz, Crucial PC2100 memory @ 166 MHz 3-3-3 (I encode DIVX and everything at this speed, zero crashes), 256MB PC2100 and an ASUS P4B266. I very recently upgraded to 512 MB PC2100.

What happens to me is: the game will just reboot in the middle of a warcraft game in Windows XP Pro. I have tried underclocking to stock speeds (100 fsb and 133 MHz Memory) and the same thing happens. When I go into the control panel and change Windows to not reboot on error, it just crashes back into Windows about 5-10 minutes into the game, instead of the freaky automatic-reboot. It behaved like this with a my GF3 for a long time, and it does this with my new ATI Radeon 8500LE now.

Here's the solution: I found that it never crashes in Windows 2000 Pro. For some reason, Windows XP crashes with this game. I had the beta for many months, and it was just like this. I have tested it, not extensively, with other platforms (i815b with tualatin celeron and windows xp) and it's more stable than my P4 platform. I don't know what it is about the P4 that crashes it (our ASUS motherboard somehow?), but it just doesn't work with Windows XP.

I have no idea what the problem is, because, as I said, even at stock speeds the game exhibits this exact same behaviour, however I wonder if it will ever get resolved. I am essentially running a dual-boot for Warcraft 3 :). Oh well, I like using 2k occasionally, anyways.

Hopefully, if it isn't too much of a hassle for you, you can test this out because I have not found any other ways to fix this. Note that it happened to me with a GF3 and a Radeon 8500, so I'm pretty sure it's not the video card's fault.

Edit: oh yeah and ninepepper - your suggestions sound very good and I think everyone should try them. I myself have tried both with onboard audio (which I have run for the past few months) and a SB Live! 5.1 before, and both had the exact same problem agian..
 

BFG10K

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I have also read on some of the Warcraft forums that lots of people have similar problems with creative cards espeically when using EAX. It has something to do with the way Blizzard is implementing EAX that causes some people problems.
That's very interesting that you mentioned this problem because since I put my new Audigy in I started having lockups with repeating sound in WC3 as well. At first I thought I had fallen victim to the squeal of death but it was puzzling since I didn't have any other issues in any other games.

Your comments about EAX make sense, especially since I fixed the problem by setting the audio to Miles Emulated 3D Audio.
 

MiamiJones

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its your video card.....I returned my ATI 9700 Pro and kept the Nvidia 4200Ti


It instaleld on a fresh drive and I had those problems. I figured its too earyl yo runb Atis card
 

Lichee

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
I have also read on some of the Warcraft forums that lots of people have similar problems with creative cards espeically when using EAX. It has something to do with the way Blizzard is implementing EAX that causes some people problems.
That's very interesting that you mentioned this problem because since I put my new Audigy in I started having lockups with repeating sound in WC3 as well. At first I thought I had fallen victim to the squeal of death but it was puzzling since I didn't have any other issues in any other games. Your comments about EAX make sense, especially since I fixed the problem by setting the audio to Miles Emulated 3D Audio.

oddly enough, i have an audigy and ati 8500 but have no issues anymore with war3. it used to hate it when i oced to 1900+ on my 1800+. buti fixed that by going stock cpu speed..
 

imgod2u

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I had a problem similar to this on a new Celeron/GF4 Ti4200 system. Instead of locking up, the machine would randomly restart. It turns out that it was something in the bios. A bios update didn't solve it though. So I ended up disabling time resynching. The problem comes when WinXP tries to synch time with the RTC of the motherboard. Go into administrator tools, services and disable something called time synching or something. See if that helps.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: imgod2u
I had a problem similar to this on a new Celeron/GF4 Ti4200 system. Instead of locking up, the machine would randomly restart. It turns out that it was something in the bios. A bios update didn't solve it though. So I ended up disabling time resynching. The problem comes when WinXP tries to synch time with the RTC of the motherboard. Go into administrator tools, services and disable something called time synching or something. See if that helps.

Hey - I'm looking in services and I can't find time synching anywere, could you name the exact program it is to disable? That would be awesome if I could get it to work under XP.

Edit: nevermind, I found it. It's called "Windows Time" and it's under the "Extended" tab of services. I'm testing out stability now... will post back results.

Edit 2: Whoah!! imgod2u your suggestion worked for me! Thanks a lot! You are god to me!
 

artemedes

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
I have also read on some of the Warcraft forums that lots of people have similar problems with creative cards espeically when using EAX. It has something to do with the way Blizzard is implementing EAX that causes some people problems.
That's very interesting that you mentioned this problem because since I put my new Audigy in I started having lockups with repeating sound in WC3 as well. At first I thought I had fallen victim to the squeal of death but it was puzzling since I didn't have any other issues in any other games.

Your comments about EAX make sense, especially since I fixed the problem by setting the audio to Miles Emulated 3D Audio.


Interesting.... When I took out the Santa Cruz and put in the Fortissimo II it defaulted to the Miles setting. Since then my problems stopped.

Hey, Jiffylube have tried changing from EAX to Miles? I also turned off 3d positional audio. Hope that helps.

 

deleterious

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Im running winxp pro. I still have the issue. Personally with a system like this i think i should be able to run WarcraftIII with at least 1280x1024 all the settings maxed. I am disappointed. :( and now have a weird issue where my system wont boot into the escd area without having my serial port enabled. I HAVE to have at least one com port enabled. If i dont, then i wont see the "escd" part. and i wont see the winxp pro screen. weird part is that this just happened. I've been able to boot my computer with all my serial ports disabled in my bios. and its worked before.

should i put win2k pro on my computer? Is this an issue with my OS? or with my hardware?
 

WyteWatt

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deleterious i guess problems with only being amd systems is not the case at all now a days because i see you have a intel system with a intel chipset i believe.
 

Spicedaddy

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WC3 works fine for me. Using Catalyst 7.77 (6178 drivers), check the link in my sig for specs. I run it at 1280x960, all details maxed, 4X AA and 8X Quality Aniso. Also using EAX2...


I think it's your motherboard.