War on Terrorism, Afganistan, Iraq complete failures

[dmcowen674]

War on Terrorism, Afghanistan, Iraq complete failures.

Why do I say that?

No, not because of partisan Politics,

not because I am not proud of our Military,

because the primary targets of each are still on the Lam and taunting the U.S.

I've said before on here many times, I firmly believe these Dictators are kept in their positions on purpose. Dictators are not "On Notice" as McCain said, they are still free to rule the world, they do, they know it and it is allowed to be that way.

There is no one in here that can prove otherwise.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Agreed.

 

[no0b]

I wouldn't say the war on Terrorism is a complete failure, there hasn't been another major terror attack on US soil. Granted we do not have all of the al queda (sp?) leaders we really don't need them all we have to do is remove their power.

 

[Zebo]

You can't fight thier mindset. The harder we push the harder they will shove back. We need to change our policy tward Israel to a fair one fist of all, we need give them more aid and be more serious about building them up again. only 16 billion of the 87 billion just approved is for that. Peanuts. And we need to let them lead themslves. If they want to be fundemental muslims let them... they need to discover freedom/democracy on thier own though civil war and fighting like any other succesful country who respects these values had to. Iran is at the precipse of governemntal evolution soon to be westernized. On thier own. Cuba will too soon after Castros demise.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: no0b
I wouldn't say the war on Terrorism is a complete failure, there hasn't been another major terror attack on US soil. Granted we do not have all of the al queda (sp?) leaders we really don't need them all we have to do is remove their power.

Maybe the War on Terrorism in this form wouldn't have been necessary had the Bush administration heeded the warnings they were given prior to 911.

 

[LunarRay]

Many have said we are there to insure the homeland of Israel. It would be cheaper and save more lives to simply dig up the soil transport it to Montana and let the Israeli settle there. Or Alaska. Eliminate the reason for all the problems and we'd be left with human rights issues. They live according to their religion. Sorta "One nation under Allah..." so let em be. Don't we believe a nation under God is the way to live?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Many have said we are there to insure the homeland of Israel. It would be cheaper and save more lives to simply dig up the soil transport it to Montana and let the Israeli settle there. Or Alaska. Eliminate the reason for all the problems and we'd be left with human rights issues. They live according to their religion. Sorta "One nation under Allah..." so let em be. Don't we believe a nation under God is the way to live?

"Don't we believe a nation under God is the way to live?"

No, guess you haven't been paying any attention to the "Push to Get rid of all references to God" thread.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: LunarRay
Many have said we are there to insure the homeland of Israel. It would be cheaper and save more lives to simply dig up the soil transport it to Montana and let the Israeli settle there. Or Alaska. Eliminate the reason for all the problems and we'd be left with human rights issues. They live according to their religion. Sorta "One nation under Allah..." so let em be. Don't we believe a nation under God is the way to live?

I'm not saying we don't use covert means to take out the terrorists and collude with the leadership in those fundemental muslim counties to take them out. I bet tehran/damascus is begging for a dialog with USA in secret or public to help them combat terror but out one way relationship with Israel prevents this.

 

[Tab]

How can you call Afganistan a complete failure?

 

[CubicZirconia]

You can't fight thier mindset.

At least not with guns. That's a cultural element that simply cannot be fought over a period of 2 years using fighter jets and m16's. Not that I have a better method, but we better strap in for the long haul if we really want to get rid of terrorism.

 

[her209]

we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: Tabb
How can you call Afganistan a complete failure?

Well we never caught Osama, and aren't a lot of the Taliban regrouping?

 

[SuperTool]

Our failure to complete the mission in Afghanistan before we moved on to Iraq will come back to haunt us. These resources should be spent on hunting down Al-Qaeda, not rebuilding Iraq.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Tabb
How can you call Afganistan a complete failure?

Well we never caught Osama, and aren't a lot of the Taliban regrouping?

Bingo

or the other guy in Iraq

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Our failure to complete the mission in Afghanistan before we moved on to Iraq will come back to haunt us. These resources should be spent on hunting down Al-Qaeda, not rebuilding Iraq.

Bingo again.

Rebuild it for what???

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: no0b
I wouldn't say the war on Terrorism is a complete failure, there hasn't been another major terror attack on US soil. Granted we do not have all of the al queda (sp?) leaders we really don't need them all we have to do is remove their power.

Maybe the War on Terrorism in this form wouldn't have been necessary had the Bush administration heeded the warnings they were given prior to 911.

This is another Partisan statement. You not holding Clinton accountable for anything huh?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Tabb
How can you call Afganistan a complete failure?

Well we never caught Osama, and aren't a lot of the Taliban regrouping?

Bingo

or the other guy in Iraq

One thing to note, everytime the taliban regroup, they get the crap knocked out of them.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: her209
we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

How do you know we aren't any safer? The whole thing is the box knife cutters is nothing... there will always be incidents such as this unless we require full body cavity searches for everyone who enters an airport, employees and passengers alike. Freedom and liberty will always be a security risk...

Quit makeing statements that you can't back up.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209
we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

How do you know we aren't any safer? The whole thing is the box knife cutters is nothing... there will always be incidents such as this unless we require full body cavity searches for everyone who enters an airport, employees and passengers alike. Freedom and liberty will always be a security risk...

Quit makeing statements that you can't back up.

We may be in fact safer, at the expense of Freedom and Liberties we once had. Is that the success???

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209
we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

How do you know we aren't any safer? The whole thing is the box knife cutters is nothing... there will always be incidents such as this unless we require full body cavity searches for everyone who enters an airport, employees and passengers alike. Freedom and liberty will always be a security risk...

Quit makeing statements that you can't back up.

9/10 2001 you were "safe", it had been nearly 10 years since Al Queda attacked on US soil. The lack of a repeat of 9/11 doesn't mean anything.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209
we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

How do you know we aren't any safer? The whole thing is the box knife cutters is nothing... there will always be incidents such as this unless we require full body cavity searches for everyone who enters an airport, employees and passengers alike. Freedom and liberty will always be a security risk...

Quit makeing statements that you can't back up.

9/10 2001 you were "safe", it had been nearly 10 years since Al Queda attacked on US soil. The lack of a repeat of 9/11 doesn't mean anything.

I never said it did, now did I?

 

[PainTrain]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209
we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

How do you know we aren't any safer? The whole thing is the box knife cutters is nothing... there will always be incidents such as this unless we require full body cavity searches for everyone who enters an airport, employees and passengers alike. Freedom and liberty will always be a security risk...

Quit makeing statements that you can't back up.

9/10 2001 you were "safe", it had been nearly 10 years since Al Queda attacked on US soil. The lack of a repeat of 9/11 doesn't mean anything.

I never said it did, now did I?

Do you believe that invading Afghanistan or Iraq eliminated any sleeper terrorist cells in the US that actually COULD threaten US soil? That was the concern, right? We don't like having Americans killed by terrorists on American soil?

By the way, ironic sig for a neo-con

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: PainTrain
Do you believe that invading Afghanistan or Iraq eliminated any sleeper terrorist cells in the US that actually COULD threaten US soil? That was the concern, right? We don't like having Americans killed by terrorists on American soil?

By the way, ironic sig for a neo-con

Careful, PainTrain, he's using his "mentalist" powers on you right now. :Q

Personally, I feel safer knowing that God chose Dubya to lead our company, er, country straight into Armageddon. Dubya: he's a God whisperer.

Where's FlyerMax when I need him?!?

 

[PainTrain]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: PainTrain
Do you believe that invading Afghanistan or Iraq eliminated any sleeper terrorist cells in the US that actually COULD threaten US soil? That was the concern, right? We don't like having Americans killed by terrorists on American soil?

By the way, ironic sig for a neo-con

Careful, PainTrain, he's using his "mentalist" powers on you right now. :Q

Personally, I feel safer knowing that God chose Dubya to lead our company, er, country straight into Armageddon. Dubya: he's a God whisperer.

Where's FlyerMax when I need him?!?

Stirring the dark, bubbling couldron of Armeggedon? Or maybe he forgot to pay his ISP

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: PainTrain

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: her209
we are no more safer than we were in 2001. look at the current debacle with the planted box knive cutters in the southwest airline planes.

not to mention the department of homeland security. i thought they were supposed to streamline the process of intelligence gathering and sharing. yet, where were they when the bush goons were claiming wmd?

How do you know we aren't any safer? The whole thing is the box knife cutters is nothing... there will always be incidents such as this unless we require full body cavity searches for everyone who enters an airport, employees and passengers alike. Freedom and liberty will always be a security risk...

Quit makeing statements that you can't back up.

9/10 2001 you were "safe", it had been nearly 10 years since Al Queda attacked on US soil. The lack of a repeat of 9/11 doesn't mean anything.

I never said it did, now did I?

Do you believe that invading Afghanistan or Iraq eliminated any sleeper terrorist cells in the US that actually COULD threaten US soil? That was the concern, right? We don't like having Americans killed by terrorists on American soil?

By the way, ironic sig for a neo-con

Do I really even have to respond to this? Here we go...

Where do you think these sleeper cells began? In the Middle East, perhaps? So, if we eliminate the source, it will be awefully difficult for more sleeper cells to form in the U.S., or for the current cells to remain in the U.S.

As for your comment about my signature... I am a magician, not a neo-con