War on Democracy'

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gingermeggs

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Here's John Pilger's latest write up on the USA/Britain.

http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-world-war-on-democracy

Land of the free?
"Last July, American historian William Blum published his "updated summary of the record of US foreign policy". Since the Second World War, the US has:

- Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of them democratically-elected.

- Attempted to suppress a populist or national movement in 20 countries.

- Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.

- Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries.

- Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.

In total, the United States has carried out one or more of these actions in 69 countries. In almost all cases, Britain has been a collaborator. The "enemy" changes in name - from communism to Islamism -- but mostly it is the rise of democracy independent of western power or a society occupying strategically useful territory, deemed expendable, like the Chagos Islands."
 

Broheim

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" I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it."
 

Craig234

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" I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it."

What a pathetic, valueless, immoral, reply.

This OP shows many people can't tell the difference between 'good' America and 'Empire'.

Funny that the quote Broheim choose to use to express his morality on the issue of the FACTS of such murderous and anti-democratic policies sometimes secretly and not secretly pursued is from a movie from the character of a Marine officer who is attacking his accuser for uncovering his having ordered the killing of a Marine. Fine choice for that view.
 

sandorski

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What a pathetic, valueless, immoral, reply.

This OP shows many people can't tell the difference between 'good' America and 'Empire'.

Funny that the quote Broheim choose to use to express his morality on the issue of the FACTS of such murderous and anti-democratic policies sometimes secretly and not secretly pursued is from a movie from the character of a Marine officer who is attacking his accuser for uncovering his having ordered the killing of a Marine. Fine choice for that view.

Indeed.
 

Doppel

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Unfortunately, while true, so many people are now totally engrossed in the idea that the US has to have multiple bases everywhere and its fingers in all the cookie jars to even conceptualize another idea without laughing outright. This his a highly militarized nation, not particularly a peaceful one at all, with more military spending than all the world combined IIRC. Certainly its navy could take on all the rest of the world's navies combined.
 

monovillage

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Here's John Pilger's latest write up on the USA/Britain.

http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-world-war-on-democracy

Land of the free?
"Last July, American historian William Blum published his "updated summary of the record of US foreign policy". Since the Second World War, the US has:

- Attempted to overthrow more than 50 governments, most of them democratically-elected.

- Attempted to suppress a populist or national movement in 20 countries.

- Grossly interfered in democratic elections in at least 30 countries.

- Dropped bombs on the people of more than 30 countries.

- Attempted to assassinate more than 50 foreign leaders.

In total, the United States has carried out one or more of these actions in 69 countries. In almost all cases, Britain has been a collaborator. The "enemy" changes in name - from communism to Islamism -- but mostly it is the rise of democracy independent of western power or a society occupying strategically useful territory, deemed expendable, like the Chagos Islands."

Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing? Did America achieve positive results as a result of this claimed interference?
 

gingermeggs

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Unfortunately, while true, so many people are now totally engrossed in the idea that the US has to have multiple bases everywhere and its fingers in all the cookie jars to even conceptualize another idea without laughing outright. This his a highly militarized nation, not particularly a peaceful one at all, with more military spending than all the world combined IIRC. Certainly its navy could take on all the rest of the world's navies combined.

It's pretty much the picture, the creditors won't pull the plug while the US and UK can pull the pin.
Whats left is no foundation for self-esteem or honest reality in the culture, just more lies, propaganda and schadenfreude emotional states , Rome mkII.
I think it will self-devour from within as the divides widen, the social injustices become greater, more frequent and amoral.
 

gingermeggs

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Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing? Did America achieve positive results as a result of this claimed interference?

A dog lives for the moment, it's not a longevious path- but jack russels live longer then pit bulls.
I think the lack of foresight for those actions will cost the children much in the future of those nations, the countries which finally get some real fought for freedom will have a brighter future, is cultural churn and history repeating?
 
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