War: By the numbers!

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Check out the comparison charts on the middle of this page.

American Revolution (1775?1783)
Total servicemembers: 217,000
Battle deaths: 4,435

War of 1812 (1812?1815)
Total servicemembers: 286,730
Battle deaths: 2,260

Indian Wars (approx. 1817?1898)
Total servicemembers: 106,000
Battle deaths: 1,000

Mexican War (1846?1848)
Total servicemembers: 78,718
Battle deaths: 1,733

Civil War (1861?1865)
Total servicemembers (Union): 2,213,363
Battle deaths (Union): 140,414
Total servicemembers (Conf.): 1,050,000
Battle deaths (Conf.): 74,524

Spanish-American War (1898?1902)
Total servicemembers: 306,760
Battle deaths: 385

World War I (1917?1918)
Total servicemembers: 4,734,991
Battle deaths: 53,402

World War II (1940?1945)
Total servicemembers: 16,112,566
Battle deaths: 291,557

Korean War (1950?1953)
Total servicemembers: 5,720,000
Battle deaths: 33,686

Vietnam War (1964?1975)
Total servicemembers: 9,200,000
Battle deaths: 47,413

Gulf War (1990?1991)
Total servicemembers: 2,322,332
Battle deaths: 148

Operation Enduring Freedom (2001?present)
Battle deaths: 51

Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003?present)
Battle deaths: 559
 

leeboy

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Yet, and people still compare the war to vietnam.

Who? Compare what war to Vietnam? This "war"? Seems to me Bush supporters compare this war to Vietnam an awful lot around here. Not the dems. Please explain if you feel inclined.

Comparing this war to Vietnam is like comparing old BBS to the present day Internet speeds. 110 to 300 baud = 30Mbps? Just trying to put it into prospective for the old techies around here ;)
 

Moonbeam

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We could probably defeat Luxembourg with a single nuke and not lose even a single soldier.
 

Red Dawn

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The thing is liberating those Iraqi isn't worth one American life let alone billions of dollars. We weren't sold the war on liberating them, we were given a bill of goods and now we and our soldiers are paying for the Dubs Administrations lies and/or incompetence.
 

Passions

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Wow only 51 deaths for Op Enduring Freedom, that's an amazing number given the enemy, friendly fire, etc, etc. :thumbsup:
 

arsbanned

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Wow only 51 deaths for Op Enduring Freedom, that's an amazing number given the enemy, friendly fire, etc, etc.

Unless you happen to be the parent or brother or sister to one of those killed. They don't feel quite so sanguine as you.
 

Moonbeam

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You don't suppose Passions was suggesting you look up the friendly fire numbers, do you?
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Wow only 51 deaths for Op Enduring Freedom, that's an amazing number given the enemy, friendly fire, etc, etc.

Unless you happen to be the parent or brother or sister to one of those killed. They don't feel quite so sanguine as you.

Yes. True. I agree. But still a very low number. Good point.
 

Red Dawn

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Well at least we aren't shooting our own College kids like we did during the Viet Nam War
 

AcidicFury

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The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: AcidicFury
The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.

The Iraqi insurgents don't have a Superpower fundiung them and supplying them with the latest weapons technology like the NV did.
 

AcidicFury

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.

The Iraqi insurgents don't have a Superpower fundiung them and supplying them with the latest weapons technology like the NV did.

It doesn't really matter though. There are a lot more Arabs from around the known world that would fight against the US because it is perceived by them to be a holy war. Wars over religion usually end up being the worst.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.

The Iraqi insurgents don't have a Superpower fundiung them and supplying them with the latest weapons technology like the NV did.

It doesn't really matter though. There are a lot more Arabs from around the known world that would fight against the US because it is perceived by them to be a holy war. Wars over religion usually end up being the worst.
Good, they'll make for easy targets!
 

AcidicFury

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.

The Iraqi insurgents don't have a Superpower fundiung them and supplying them with the latest weapons technology like the NV did.

It doesn't really matter though. There are a lot more Arabs from around the known world that would fight against the US because it is perceived by them to be a holy war. Wars over religion usually end up being the worst.
Good, they'll make for easy targets!

And by then, the world will criticize us for genocide! Yay!
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.

The Iraqi insurgents don't have a Superpower fundiung them and supplying them with the latest weapons technology like the NV did.

It doesn't really matter though. There are a lot more Arabs from around the known world that would fight against the US because it is perceived by them to be a holy war. Wars over religion usually end up being the worst.
Good, they'll make for easy targets!

And by then, the world will criticize us for genocide! Yay!
It's a good thing all Muslims aren't Islama Facists then
 

AcidicFury

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
The Vietnam War's death tolls went up drastically over time. We wouldn't see this for another year or so in Iraq.

The Iraqi insurgents don't have a Superpower fundiung them and supplying them with the latest weapons technology like the NV did.

It doesn't really matter though. There are a lot more Arabs from around the known world that would fight against the US because it is perceived by them to be a holy war. Wars over religion usually end up being the worst.
Good, they'll make for easy targets!

And by then, the world will criticize us for genocide! Yay!
It's a good thing all Muslims aren't Islama Facists then

I never said they were.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

And by then, the world will criticize us for genocide! Yay!
It's a good thing all Muslims aren't Islama Facists then

I never said they were.[/quote]Good then we won't have to kill them all!
 

Perknose

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Those figures are accross the board LOW for the wars I'm familiar with -- from WWII onwards.

The culprit must be the term "battle deaths". Ayup:


World War II (1940?1945)
Total servicemembers 16,112,566
Battle deaths 291,557
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 113,842
Nonmortal woundings 671,846


Korean War (1950?1953)
Total servicemembers 5,720,000
Serving in-theater 1,789,000
Battle deaths 33,741
Other deaths in service (theater) 2,827
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 17,730

Nonmortal woundings 103,284


Vietnam War (1964?1975)
Total servicemembers 8,744,000
Serving in-theater 3,403,000
Battle deaths 47,410
Other deaths in service (theater) 10,789
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 32,000

Nonmortal woundings 153,303


America's Wars Total
Military service during war 42,348,460
Battle deaths 651,008
Other deaths in service (theater) 13,998
Other deaths in service (nontheater) 525,256

Nonmortal woundings 1,431,290

Surely, GTaudiophile, as a patriotic American, you're not suggesting that the deaths of more than one half of one MILLION young Americans in support of your freedom was just too insignificant to even bother mentioning.

Right? :|
 

paulandreas

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Yet, and people still compare the war to vietnam.

so how many people did america lose in nam the first year? anyway its a different situation on scale and the damage losses cause politically
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: paulandreas
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: AcidicFury
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

And by then, the world will criticize us for genocide! Yay!
It's a good thing all Muslims aren't Islama Facists then

I never said they were.
Good then we won't have to kill them all!

red dusk you foo[/quote]So you are saying there aren't Islamic Factions whose sole purpose is to rain death upon American and Western Countries? That doesn't mean we should go ill conceived excellent adventures but there are those subhuman bastards who are out to fsck us up!