Want to go to an art school

[Naer]

but I don't want to go into debt

What's the next best thing?

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Library.

 

[BikeJunkie]

That's just a touch ambiguous, don't you think?

Besides art, what do you enjoy? What are you good at? What do you wish you were good at? Have you taken any aptitude tests and, if so, what were the results?

 

[lxskllr]

Hang out with art students. You get the drinking, and can make artsy connections without the cost. Do art at home.

 

[inf1nity]

I'll never understand why people go to art school. If somebody is interested in an art, they find a way to do it anyways. Why waste the money in going to a school? In this day and age of internet tutorials, it has become even easier.

 

[manimal]

If this is a real question we need to know the discipline. If its say drawing or painting water colors or charcoal then studying with a master would get you most of the practical methodology though the university setting would get a more developed aesthetic sense and increase your overall knowledge and taste.

If its art history or something more academic then yes the formal setting is where its at.

If its music like Piano sure you could could study with a master and learn what you need but getting multiple points of view from multiple faculty members and the challenge of overcoming peers in competition is priceless.

Theory, practical applications, history, all things that are really easy to get in the university setting.

I have studied privately and in the school setting. When I was young and didnt know anything the school setting was better because it taught me disciplne, living on my own, making my own decisions, comparing myself against my peers, discovering which of the disciplines being taought spoke to me best were all things I needed to learn in the university setting.

Now that I am old and dont need all those early lessons I can study something with a master and receive the transmission.

One needs to learn how to listen first before they can receive the transmission.

 

[lxskllr]

I'll never understand why people go to art school. If somebody is interested in an art, they find a way to do it anyways. Why waste the money in going to a school? In this day and age of internet tutorials, it has become even easier.

Like regular school, it helps make connections. It's probably less important with painting and sculpture, but performance art especially benefits from being around others.

 

[manimal]

I'll never understand why people go to art school. If somebody is interested in an art, they find a way to do it anyways. Why waste the money in going to a school? In this day and age of internet tutorials, it has become even easier.

Learning from a real person who knows you and is looking at you and listening and responding to what you are doing is worlds better than just wathcing a video. Clearly you have no idea what your talking about....

Whats your profession? Can i learn it by watching a few videos and posting a fail on you tube>

Unless your a garbage man I dont think so.

 

[Kaido]

but I don't want to go into debt

What's the next best thing?

Let's back up first. What job are you hoping to get by going to art school? You usually go to school to get trained for a specific type of job. Hollywood makeup artist? Graphic designer? Advertising director?

 

[Kaido]

I'll never understand why people go to art school. If somebody is interested in an art, they find a way to do it anyways. Why waste the money in going to a school? In this day and age of internet tutorials, it has become even easier.

The downside of that is human nature. Like 1% of the population has the discipline to be self-motivated and those guys end up like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, Picaso, etc. And if you already had the motivation already, you wouldn't be posting in a public forum - you would be hitting the search engines to learn more, talking to people, finding scholarships, etc. The problem is that most of us need that social structure to be productive - peer pressure is an amazing thing when it comes to forcing us to get stuff done, like studying in school & learning new art techniques :biggrin:

 

[SandEagle]

go for it man. do what you like, the money will follow.

 

[inf1nity]

go for it man. do what you like, the money will follow.

Uhh, no.

Fields like art require a lot of luck to earn money. I know people who went for an arts career and are living in 1 room apartments struggling to pay rent.

Arts should always be pursued as a side business/hobby, not as a fulltime job.

I like playing guitar, it doesn't mean that i should drop out of college to go to music school.

People really need to stop reading all those "You can win" type of self-help books. Most of them are full of crap.

 

[SandEagle]

Uhh, no.

Fields like art require a lot of luck to earn money. I know people who went for an arts career and are living in 1 room apartments struggling to pay rent.

Arts should always be pursued as a side business/hobby, not as a fulltime job.

I like playing guitar, it doesn't mean that i should drop out of college to go to music school.

People really need to stop reading all those "You can win" type of self-help books. Most of them are full of crap.

as one Indian to another fellow Indian, kindly chup khor bewakoof!

 

[lxskllr]

People really need to stop reading all those "You can win" type of self-help books. Most of them are full of crap.

People really need to quit worshiping the $, and live their own lives on their own terms. If someone wants to do art, they should do art. Life's too short for business management when you really want to be on stage.

 

[inf1nity]

as one indian to another fellow indian, kindly chup khor bewakoof!

भेजा मत खा यार

 

[SandEagle]

People really need to quit worshiping the $, and live their own lives on their own terms. If someone wants to do art, they should do art. Life's too short for business management when you really want to be on stage.

well said. human beings were not meant to be stuck in cubes.
lots of kids want to be an actor or an art teacher when they grow up. never heard a kid say they want to be a project manager, application developer, or a business analyst when they grow up.

 

[inf1nity]

People really need to quit worshiping the $, and live their own lives on their own terms. If someone wants to do art, they should do art. Life's too short for business management when you really want to be on stage.

Yes but then people should have realistic expectations about the field they're getting into. before getting into fine arts they should know they wouldn't be making a lot of money, and if they do, they'll be 70 years old by the time it happens. yes i know exceptions exist, but they are few and far between.

Saying stuff like "Do what you want to do, money will follow" is just misleading.

 

[lxskllr]

well said. human beings were not meant to be stuck in cubes.
lots of kids want to be an actor or an art teacher when they grow up. never heard a kid say they want to be a project manager, application developer, or a business analyst when they grow up.

An aspiring artist needs to be prepared to not make much money if their primary goal isn't achieved, but that's not a big deal if you're doing what you want. It can also lead to surprising, and satisfactory outcomes. They may not do art directly, but will get involved in the periphery, or infrastructure.

 

[SandEagle]

Yes but then people should have realistic expectations about the field they're getting into. before getting into fine arts they should know they wouldn't be making a lot of money, and if they do, they'll be 70 years old by the time it happens. yes i know exceptions exist, but they are few and far between.

Saying stuff like "Do what you want to do, money will follow" is just misleading.

yeah, this coming from the guy who probably says "Poop in the river, nobody will notice."

life is short, enjoy it with what makes you happy.

 

[lxskllr]

Yes but then people should have realistic expectations about the field they're getting into. before getting into fine arts they should know they wouldn't be making a lot of money, and if they do, they'll be 70 years old by the time it happens. yes i know exceptions exist, but they are few and far between.

Saying stuff like "Do what you want to do, money will follow" is just misleading.

Sure, that goes without saying. I doubt many have the delusion that they'll make loads of money if they work hard enough. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they'll make /enough/ money if they work hard though. "Enough money" being defined as having a roof, food, and clothes.

 

[inf1nity]

yeah, this coming from the guy who probably says "Poop in the river, nobody will notice."

life is short, enjoy it with what makes you happy.

Wow.. really?

You are probably another loser living in his parents' basement and likes to annoy people online for no reason.

 

[Soundmanred]

I'd start with coloring books and go from there.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

I'd start with coloring books and go from there.

+1 for crayola. Make sure you go visit their museum on your first field trip http://www.crayolaexperience.com/

 

[Kaido]

Saying stuff like "Do what you want to do, money will follow" is just misleading.

Unfortunately, yup:

http://www.naspa.org/rpi/posts/take...less-a-growing-trend-in-the-college-student-e

 

[Kaido]

People really need to quit worshiping the $, and live their own lives on their own terms. If someone wants to do art, they should do art. Life's too short for business management when you really want to be on stage.

I can see both sides of this. On one hand, you should pursue what you love to do and find a way to make money at it. America is the land of opportunity - you can be Donald Trump or Lady Gaga if you want to.

However, you also have to be realistic. Most art jobs do not pay well. A lot of people who go into fine art really struggle. The people I know who are successful artists are either commercially employed or have rich parents, so they can afford to not have a regular or large income to survive on their own on.

I come from an art background and would really have really liked to have pursued that more, but I also wanted to have a family, so I needed a consistent income for diapers, baby food, etc. I love computers, maybe more as a hobby, but it's a good steady job in this economy. Art jobs can be good, can be steady, and can pay well, but even in Geek Squad you can pull in $25k a year pretty easily, which you can live on, even if just barely.

All depends on what you want to get into, too. Pixar employees make pretty good money. There's game design, commercial graphic design, magazine work, all kinds of stuff that can make for a great career.