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Want to get a 2008 Focus and would like to do some mods to it

VinylxScratches

Golden Member
Would putting new lighter rims, a carbon fiber hood/trunk if there is one, and a new muffler (not a ricer muffler) be too stupid?

I would like to mod it lightly over time.

 
Lighter rims with different tires means that usually the wheels will be expensive and the tires will be more expensive as well. Carbon fiber is just stupid on a street car, a new muffler for what reason? It's your car and you're free to do what you want to it.
 
I don't mean this to sound mean - just constructive criticism.

What you're doing sounds like a typical ricer car to me. Most of the ones I've seen mod their car with:
#1 - rims
#2 - muffler
#3 - tail lights
#4 - hood (carbon fiber or flat / gloss black on a different-colored car)
#5+ - stereo / speakers / subs, HIDs, fog lights, underglow, decals, spoiler, etc.

The only reason to get a different muffler is for sound, and with a 4 cylinder engine that isn't created for performance, nothing is going to make it sound impressive (just loud). The hood is a waste of money (but to each their own), and the rims will definitely be expensive.

If it were me, I'd stick with the stock hood, shop around for a nicely styled (and reasonably sized) stainless steel rolled-edge exhaust tip, and some reasonably priced wheels. A tasteful (read: not large) OEM or painted matching after market spoiler can dress up the back end quite a bit, too. With all that done, you'll end up with a car that looks more impressive than it was, has your own styling touch, and won't be the butt of numerous jokes.
 
if you get an aftermarket exhaust, go with a quiet muffler. you really don't want to be another one of 'those' guys.

otherwise, maybe do an intake and wheels and that common stuff, but there's really no good reason to get carbon fiber or anything like that on it. i mean, i like the newer focuses, they're good cars, but it is what it is, a compact commuter car (unless you've got one of the more special versions, the best of which never even get released in the US). don't go too crazy.
 
I'm an '08 Focus Coupe S 5spd owner. Have done some light mods, and am a serious KB on Foci info. PM me if interested, but the short list of goodies and forgetabouttits :

(1)- Steeda SRI is good, has a removable insert for boost on stock ECU or tuned ECU, there are some other decent ones as well, but also some crap ones
(2)- ECU Flash/Tune, necessary to adapt to forced induction or unrestictive intake and/or exhaust, as well as higher octane fuel
(3)- Forget bigger tires, forget CF hood, spoiler looks nice and can increase looks but has no performance benefit. If you're doing 100+ in a 2550lb Focus, you're going too fast
(4)- Sway bars are a big payoff, as are tighter suspension setups, just don't go too crazy, or you'll sacrifice ride/practicality
(5)- Have fun, you can have a snappier, more fun vehicle if you're willing to spend the cash and do the work, but always remember : it's a Focus at the end of the day. You may jump from a 7.5 stock 0-60 to a 6.5 or better, but this is no Vette, not even a decent V6 6MT sedan, not without boost, and what idiot *really* wants a FWD turbo/SC? (I had a jackson SC lude, so yeah, I was that idiot, fun car though).
 
Lighter rims can help with a lot of things, but try not to go too crazy with it, and be sure you know the weight of the OEM rims before you go shopping for new ones. Also be aware that replacing steelies with something else may make your vehicle more prone to damage if you do something stupid like drive up on a curb or hit a nasty pothole. On a final note, unless you're looking for more contact patch, it is not recommended that you switch to an aftermarket wheel size that is larger than stock. The main benefit to lighter rims is for them to be lighter, and it's easier for them to weigh less if they're smaller. You also have to take tire weight into consideration, which is arguably a much bigger factor than wheel weight, and bigger wheels = bigger, heavier tires in most instances (bigger tires also cost more which sucks). A vehicle like the Focus just does not need 18-20 inch rims, and going to a bigger rim with low-profile tires to maintain proper tire/wheel diameter brings with it all manner of un-fun problems (most notably tires that are very expensive and wear out quickly compared to standard passenger tires).

As far as carbon fibre goes, that's only going to help as a part of a much larger and more intensive mod plan. Just the hood and trunk would shave off a few pounds which would do nothing much and potentially make your car look like ass. And the muffler . . . unless you're planning on putting on a good aftermarket intake and exhaust, I wouldn't recommend it unless you're looking to make the ride quieter than it already is. Most aftermarket intake/exhaust mods that add power are probably going to shift the power band into the upper RPM range so you'd better really want to rev the engine up to take advantage of it, or otherwise you'll be driving around with a lot less torque on tap while at low RPMs.

In the end you have to plan for what you want to achieve. If you want to shave off a few pounds and add some power, well, you can do that, but the results will not be impressive if all you're doing is strapping on some mostly-cosmetic CF parts and a funky muffler. If you do it wrong you may not lose any weight or gain any power at all. Aftermarket rims can help with acceleration, braking, and handling, but only if you're smart about it and are willing to deal with the drawbacks. Do not go to a rim that weighs as much as (or more than) the stock rims, and do not move to tires that weight more than the ones you have now.

I would recommend going to a Ford Focus forum (not to diss on anyone here), get an idea of what's available, and try to make a long-term plan on what you want to do with the car. If you feel the urge to do anything drastic like extensive weight reduction (which is what carbon fibre/fibreglass parts are really for when sensibly applied, unless it's supposed to be a showcar or something), you may have the wrong car, or you should at least be prepared for doing a lot of work and blowing a lot of cash.

I used to want to do similar things to my Saturn Ion, only taken to such extremes that it stopped making any sense. I wanted it to be lighter so it would get better gas mileage and perform better at the same time, which is a noble goal, but it's very difficult to achieve that without butchering the car. At least a Focus would probably have better aftermarket support for that kind of thing, but still . . . either get help from someone who can build a comfortable, streetable Focus with the power/weight ratio you want or look at a different platform that can get closer to that power/weight ratio while remaining streetable and within your budget.

Or hell, just get a hardtop Miata. You can do a lot of things with one of those.
 
Nothing and I mean NOTHING says rice like a carbon fiber hood or trunk.

This is a FOCUS. Modding it is like a fat woman wearing spandex. She is still fat. Save the money you have wasted on money-wasting mods to a one-in-a-millions (literally) car and put it toward a nicer one down the road. You'll never get your money back and later will realize what a waste of cash it was.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nothing and I mean NOTHING says rice like a carbon fiber hood or trunk.

This is a FOCUS. Modding it is like a fat woman wearing spandex. She is still fat. Save the money you have wasted on money-wasting mods to a one-in-a-millions (literally) car and put it toward a nicer one down the road. You'll never get your money back and later will realize what a waste of cash it was.

This.

What does the stock hood weigh anyway? Is the cheap fiberglass hood with fake carbon fiber poo poo you're going to put on there actually any lighter? I'd bet it's probably heavier...and fits poorly.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Nothing and I mean NOTHING says rice like a carbon fiber hood or trunk.

This is a FOCUS. Modding it is like a fat woman wearing spandex. She is still fat. Save the money you have wasted on money-wasting mods to a one-in-a-millions (literally) car and put it toward a nicer one down the road. You'll never get your money back and later will realize what a waste of cash it was.

While I agree with the sentiment not to blow a bunch of $ on expensive crap like forced induction or body panel replacements, there are some cheapish upgrades that make things more fun/satisfying without breaking the bank. The current US Focus is still based on the MK1/1.5 chassis that also had the SVT/ST170 models on it, and you can duplicate the handling ability (better than boxster/C5 Z06/etc) by getting the sways and suspension parts to match or exceed the SVT.

Power is a whole other issue, and the thing is FF, so not worth blowing a huge amount of $. The Steeda SRI sounds nice (not buzzy/farty or whiny/loud, just smooth and mellow), and adds a decent bit of power when combined with a nice tune. The 2.0 Mazda Duratec is artificially limited to 140hp/136tq in the stock Focus, but can deliver a good bit of extra power when tuned and opened up a bit. Foci with Intake+tune on the Dura 2.0 regularly run high 14s in the 1/4, and that's a cheap upgrade. 14s are slow, yes, but it wasn't so long ago (early 90s) that a stock Vette did mid 14's in the 1/4 🙂 Also, the Duratec 2.0 is used by Cosworth in the UK for a variety of go-fast toys, and the motor does *Very* well with some upgrades to the top end. (I would never recommend spending cosworth-level $ on a Focus though).

In short : a Focus will never be fast, but they can be practical and satisfying, and it's possible to make them better without blowing a lot of cash. It's always important to remember that at the end of the day it's still an econobox, and to avoid the goofier ideas. The Focus is already the lightest car in the class by a decent amount, and also handles better than pretty much anything under $20k.
 
dude, get a kickass stereo. it will increase your satisfaction of your car by 1000% and will deter your need to rice your car up. if you need to do performance mods, get a cold air intake and some suspension mods, that's it. CF hoods are dumb
 
Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Would putting new lighter rims, a carbon fiber hood/trunk if there is one, and a new muffler (not a ricer muffler) be too stupid?

I would like to mod it lightly over time.

Get an older SVT model with the euro interior package (recaros) and call it a day. Everything else is rice.
 
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: halik

I would've hoped for more than high 13s from that thing...

Totally. That looks like a raw swap, really needs some suspension / drivetrain tuning to get it right. 2900lbs + 320hp should be better than ~14 imho.

This is a total drag queen, but holy crap lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...wjGKP0&feature=related

I can guarantee that if they at least had drag radials and even better, slicks, they would have run a much better time. I don't know why they wouldn't run slicks with something like that.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: halik

I would've hoped for more than high 13s from that thing...

Totally. That looks like a raw swap, really needs some suspension / drivetrain tuning to get it right. 2900lbs + 320hp should be better than ~14 imho.

This is a total drag queen, but holy crap lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...wjGKP0&feature=related

I can guarantee that if they at least had drag radials and even better, slicks, they would have run a much better time. I don't know why they wouldn't run slicks with something like that.

Yep.., I ran a 13.65 with a slower trap (103) -- on street tires, too. Traction helps. 😉
 
Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: halik

I would've hoped for more than high 13s from that thing...

Totally. That looks like a raw swap, really needs some suspension / drivetrain tuning to get it right. 2900lbs + 320hp should be better than ~14 imho.

This is a total drag queen, but holy crap lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...wjGKP0&feature=related

I can guarantee that if they at least had drag radials and even better, slicks, they would have run a much better time. I don't know why they wouldn't run slicks with something like that.

Yep.., I ran a 13.65 with a slower trap (103) -- on street tires, too. Traction helps. 😉

It sucks for my car cus I can't run tall tires for slicks and DR but I didn't buy my car for the straights.
 
nothing you do will enhance the car.....a focus is still a focus

save the extra cash and put it towards the principal of a better econobox. Maybe a Cobalt SS....Civic Si, SE-R, MS3, etc etc

Hell, just get an older focus SVT
 
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: VinylxScratches
Would putting new lighter rims, a carbon fiber hood/trunk if there is one, and a new muffler (not a ricer muffler) be too stupid?

I would like to mod it lightly over time.

Get an older SVT model with the euro interior package (recaros) and call it a day. Everything else is rice.

This.

If you are thinking about installing any mods that will increase the car's performance, install the driver mod first. The driver mod is by far the best bang for the buck.

If you want mods for appearance only... well, that's up to you.
 
SVT has a somewhat poorly matched 6-speed, and is based on the Ford Zetec motor. In a choice between a Focus SVT and a newer Duratec Focus, the newer one is the better choice. Better reliability, much better fuel economy, and the 5-speed is a better match for a sub-200hp 4-banger. With bolt-ons, you can also exceed the power levels of the Zetec motor by quite a bit. Team SVT took the ~130hp 2.0 Zetec and did upgraded internals and fuel delivery to get it up to 170hp. As a result, the thing is pretty maxxed out at stock. Adding a SC, you can get it into the 200+hp range, but not too far, and there are various drawbacks to this. With the Duratec, bolt-ons get up to and beyond 300hp on stock internals if you should wish to push it that far. The Speed3 uses a Turbo Duratec. I really wouldn't recommend spending that kind of $ though.

Lots of Focus SVT's were owned by ricers as well, so that is something to think about, like buying an older Si Honda. You can get the handling of the SVT pretty easily as well.
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: halik

I would've hoped for more than high 13s from that thing...

Totally. That looks like a raw swap, really needs some suspension / drivetrain tuning to get it right. 2900lbs + 320hp should be better than ~14 imho.

This is a total drag queen, but holy crap lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...wjGKP0&feature=related

I can guarantee that if they at least had drag radials and even better, slicks, they would have run a much better time. I don't know why they wouldn't run slicks with something like that.

Yep.., I ran a 13.65 with a slower trap (103) -- on street tires, too. Traction helps. 😉

It sucks for my car cus I can't run tall tires for slicks and DR but I didn't buy my car for the straights.

Neither did I, but it's still fun. 😛
 
This would be only SLIGHTLY cooler than ricing out a Dodge Neon. SLIGHTLY.

Just think of all the fat toothless hussies you will impress.
 
Originally posted by: thomsbrain
This would be only SLIGHTLY cooler than ricing out a Dodge Neon. SLIGHTLY.

Just think of all the fat toothless hussies you will impress.

Well, I would certainly hope that no one is modding any car just to impress someone else. I know it happens all the time, but I think it's asinine.

Modding a car to make it more satisfying for the driver/owner on the other hand, what's wrong with that?
 
Nothing wrong if that's what floats your boat.
IMHO however, I prefer functional to cosmetic mods. Eg. for my 06 Lincoln LS - summer (Bridgestone RE960AS) and winter (Michelin X-Ice Xi2) tires, nav headunit (Pioneer Z110BT), SCT XCal3, KKM CAI, Stoptech stainless steel brakelines, ceramic brakepads, DieHard platinum batt (higher CCA and RC).
 
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