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Want a New Home Theater ..need suggetions

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davew0670

Golden Member
Im looking at upgrading my home theater want some suggestions. Trying to stay around $600..maybe more if I win my Fantasy Football league! Need new speakers and a receiver. Already have a good dvd player. Im trying to stay away from the HT in a box deal unless someone knows a good one. Also need speakers to be small and silver in color because I have a picky ass wife. So far Im leaning towards this receiver from Kenwood

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/prod...ice&productId=2611
 
With a $600 budget you really don't have any options but boxed sets (albeit good ones - Both Kenwood & Onkyo have excellent boxed sets in that price range) unless you're willing to go 2.0 for now and add channels later.

Do you have any existing speakers that you can use as surrounds? Do you have a sub at all?

Viper GTS
 
For 600 bucks, you can't buy anything really GOOD, but I'll concur with Viper that a HTIB is your best bet at that price level.
 
if i were you i would put that $600 towards a receiver and then piece together a system as you move on in the future. those HTIB sets are crap dude. if you really want a good setup then you wi ll have to spend more money, and piece your system together. you don't make a good HT overnight, it takes time.

but if you want to just settle for something that is going to get you by, then like these guys said, get the HTIB. i personally think they are a waste of money and would never get one of those, but then again, thats me 🙂.
 
Originally posted by: davew0670
Im looking at upgrading my home theater want some suggestions. Trying to stay around $600..maybe more if I win my Fantasy Football league! Need new speakers and a receiver. Already have a good dvd player. Im trying to stay away from the HT in a box deal unless someone knows a good one. Also need speakers to be small and silver in color because I have a picky ass wife. So far Im leaning towards this receiver from Kenwood

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/prod...ice&productId=2611
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I would go with the fluance 5.1 set $250 shipped.

Spend around $200-250 on a receiver with Pro-logic II, DTS, DD 5.1-6.1

Subwoofer = Parts express has some good ones around $100

total would $600 and would blow away most HTIAB
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
if i were you i would put that $600 towards a receiver and then piece together a system as you move on in the future. those HTIB sets are crap dude. if you really want a good setup then you wi ll have to spend more money, and piece your system together. you don't make a good HT overnight, it takes time.

but if you want to just settle for something that is going to get you by, then like these guys said, get the HTIB. i personally think they are a waste of money and would never get one of those, but then again, thats me 🙂.
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I'm against this way of doing things. It goes back to the whole thing about computer parts costing 1/2 as much, yet being 2x faster 2 years later.

Lets say you buy a $600 receiver today, wait two years and then buy $600 worth of speakers.

Well, here you went two years without a system. Plus, the receiver you paid 600 for, can now be found for about $300.
 
Don't know how I missed this the first time:

Originally posted by: davew0670
Also need speakers to be small and silver in color because I have a picky ass wife.
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You need to break her of that if you intend to ever have a decent HT setup. Either that or get creative at hiding them, small and good sound quality + range NEVER go together.

Granted you don't need to go to extremes to get good quality (I have a 40" tall subwoofer in my living room), but you can't get away with 6" silver cubes all the way around + an 8" sub.

Silver, of course.

BTW, pay no attention to those knocking boxed sets. If all you have to spend is $600 there is no shame whatsoever in buying a good boxed set. It will still blow your current setup away, & is far more than 99.9% of the population will ever need or want.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: austin316
Originally posted by: purbeast0
if i were you i would put that $600 towards a receiver and then piece together a system as you move on in the future. those HTIB sets are crap dude. if you really want a good setup then you wi ll have to spend more money, and piece your system together. you don't make a good HT overnight, it takes time.

but if you want to just settle for something that is going to get you by, then like these guys said, get the HTIB. i personally think they are a waste of money and would never get one of those, but then again, thats me 🙂.
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I'm against this way of doing things. It goes back to the whole thing about computer parts costing 1/2 as much, yet being 2x faster 2 years later.

Lets say you buy a $600 receiver today, wait two years and then buy $600 worth of speakers.

Well, here you went two years without a system. Plus, the receiver you paid 600 for, can now be found for about $300.
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well if it takes you 2 years to save up to buy 2 speakers, then you probably shouldn't be in the market for HT stuff at all.

i personally would save up more $$$ and spend atleast $1000 on 2 Front speakers and a good receiver. Then I would either get the sub or the center speaker, then the surround sounds.

its true that the value of anyting you buy today will drop in the future, that is technology. however that does not mean the quality of the receiver will go down. my receiver i have that was $800 4 years ago ( i paid $475 since i worked at BB wehen i got it) still rocks the basement where i play my system. it is awesome!

i was going to get an HTIB system until i experienced one that was pieced together over the period of a month. i then worked a 2nd job for a month, got my discount after 30 days at BB, bought all my stuff saving $1300, then quit my 31st day 🙂
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: austin316
Originally posted by: purbeast0
if i were you i would put that $600 towards a receiver and then piece together a system as you move on in the future. those HTIB sets are crap dude. if you really want a good setup then you wi ll have to spend more money, and piece your system together. you don't make a good HT overnight, it takes time.

but if you want to just settle for something that is going to get you by, then like these guys said, get the HTIB. i personally think they are a waste of money and would never get one of those, but then again, thats me 🙂.
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I'm against this way of doing things. It goes back to the whole thing about computer parts costing 1/2 as much, yet being 2x faster 2 years later.

Lets say you buy a $600 receiver today, wait two years and then buy $600 worth of speakers.

Well, here you went two years without a system. Plus, the receiver you paid 600 for, can now be found for about $300.
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well if it takes you 2 years to save up to buy 2 speakers, then you probably shouldn't be in the market for HT stuff at all.

i personally would save up more $$$ and spend atleast $1000 on 2 Front speakers and a good receiver. Then I would either get the sub or the center speaker, then the surround sounds.

its true that the value of anyting you buy today will drop in the future, that is technology. however that does not mean the quality of the receiver will go down. my receiver i have that was $800 4 years ago ( i paid $475 since i worked at BB wehen i got it) still rocks the basement where i play my system. it is awesome!

i was going to get an HTIB system until i experienced one that was pieced together over the period of a month. i then worked a 2nd job for a month, got my discount after 30 days at BB, bought all my stuff saving $1300, then quit my 31st day 🙂
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I'll I'm saying is that someone who wants to spend $600 TOTAL, is not in the market for an $800 receiver.

They would be just as happy with the system I mentioned.
 
Save your money. That fluance set, well, I just roll my eyes. It is just as bad as those HTIB as they give you lots of speakers hoping that the sound coming from multiple channels (5.1) will distract you enough to not notice the actual quality of the sound. A QUALITY system takes time. And tell your wife to take a chill pill. That this is something you want and she needs to be a little bit more relaxed on the requirements. It would be very difficult to find anything in silver that is not htib in my experience.
 
alas i cannot help when it comes to pricing as i live in the UK and we pay more for this sort of thing, the Receiver u linked to would cost me probably £600 if they sold the model over here, given the exchange rate that means i'd be paying around US$1100!!

personally though, if you can get your hands on Denon receivers over there get one, the Denons are top of the pile atm, very good quality music, very good quality surround steering, good build, very reliable.

you might not get THX at that price range from Denon, but then the Select version of THX really doesnt mean all that much, Denons own in house surround modes are quite good. (My pet hate is people who spout they have THX certified computer speakers/soundcard.....its a special THX certification solely given to the computer world, its just a money making thing, the only THX badge that means anything is the Ultra badge...that one means your getting the bees knees for the money)

Speaker wise, if u need them small and silver, see if u can find KEF 2005.2, they are sweet sounding and damn cute looking. alternatively Mordaunt Short have something similar, but im not sure if these will be within your price range. it might be a case of get the receiver first then buy the speakers at a later date.

Or you could buy some small bookshelf size normal hifi speakers (3 pairs for 6.1 setup or if your lucky a single as well to make 7.1) then buy a REL subwoofer, no word of a lie, you cannot beat the REL's for the price range they cover, M&K dont even come close!

 
for 600 dollars you can have an AMAZING setup I just setup one for my uncle and its better then most 1500 systems and it will SPANK any BOSE systems that your friends may brag about. here it is:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

purchase their Ventriloquist VT-12 package, you can read about it everywhere hundreds of positive reviews, you can get it on ebay for about $200

Costco has a amazingly priced 10/12 inch woofer for about $100 out the door

and get this amazing 6.1 Denon receiver for $300

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=297873

I promise NOT A SINGLE HTIB can EVEN hold a candle to this setup.

 
Originally posted by: JImmyK
for 600 dollars you can have an AMAZING setup I just setup one for my uncle and its better then most 1500 systems and it will SPANK any BOSE systems that your friends may brag about. here it is:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

purchase their Ventriloquist VT-12 package, you can read about it everywhere hundreds of positive reviews, you can get it on ebay for about $200

Costco has a amazingly priced 10/12 inch woofer for about $100 out the door

and get this amazing 6.1 Denon receiver for $300

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=297873

I promise NOT A SINGLE HTIB can EVEN hold a candle to this setup.
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well if you are comparing your system to a BOSE system thinking BOSE is the best ... that is your problem right there.

im not saying it won't sound good ... all i'm trying to say is that with home theatre stuff ... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
 
I would agree with most of what Purbeast said.

The only thing I hate about spending much on a receiver is that in 4 years, its surround processing (DTS, Dolby Digital, etc) will be obsolete. And there's no upgrading a cheap component, other than getting a new one.

And you can forget a 600 buck receiver being worth 300 in two years. More like 150.

The upgradability issue is why I've got a B&K Reference 50 preamp coming. They do upgrades, so you won't be left behind when new features come out.
Unfortunately, they're far out of the price range we're talking about here, but by the time you upgrade your receiver every 3-5 years, you'd have been better off buying a higher-end, upgradable unit.
Not to mention the sound will be FAR better.

Speakers are one thing you can stay with, though. There haven't been any REAL advances in speaker technology in the last 10 years, regardless of what the manufacturers tell you.
So if you go ahead and save up for a good set (hint: You can't buy a GOOD set at Best Buy), you'll have speakers you can keep 20+ years.
Hint: If you do this, buy the speakers first, then the receiver...that way you'll have the latest technology when you get your receiver.

If you're just looking to get a HT setup ASAP, again, I'd recommend the HTIB. With 6-700 bucks as your limit, there's not going to be much difference in HTIB and separate stuff at that price.
In fact, if you have the cash, I'd recommend going to one of the audio classified sites or Ebay, and picking up a better-quality, maybe 1 year old receiver. Same with the speakers.
Buy used, good quality speakers, and maybe a 1 year old mid-fi receiver that's better than anything you can find at BB or CC for the same price new.
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: JImmyK
for 600 dollars you can have an AMAZING setup I just setup one for my uncle and its better then most 1500 systems and it will SPANK any BOSE systems that your friends may brag about. here it is:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

purchase their Ventriloquist VT-12 package, you can read about it everywhere hundreds of positive reviews, you can get it on ebay for about $200

Costco has a amazingly priced 10/12 inch woofer for about $100 out the door

and get this amazing 6.1 Denon receiver for $300

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=297873

I promise NOT A SINGLE HTIB can EVEN hold a candle to this setup.
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well if you are comparing your system to a BOSE system thinking BOSE is the best ... that is your problem right there.

im not saying it won't sound good ... all i'm trying to say is that with home theatre stuff ... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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Who ever said Bose is the best? where did you even pull that out of?

Every noob in the AV world always has a set of BOSE Im assuming this fella also has friends that swear by their BOSE system. So I ALWAYS use that as a perfect example, a 600 dollar system that will spank a 1500 bose system and NOT have the 70-250HZ gap that most satellite systems have.


By the way you can get the speakers they use in the BOSE satellites system for 25 dollars a pair shipped from most distributors... just a good fact that most dont know..
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: JImmyK
for 600 dollars you can have an AMAZING setup I just setup one for my uncle and its better then most 1500 systems and it will SPANK any BOSE systems that your friends may brag about. here it is:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

purchase their Ventriloquist VT-12 package, you can read about it everywhere hundreds of positive reviews, you can get it on ebay for about $200

Costco has a amazingly priced 10/12 inch woofer for about $100 out the door

and get this amazing 6.1 Denon receiver for $300

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=297873

I promise NOT A SINGLE HTIB can EVEN hold a candle to this setup.
Click to expand...

well if you are comparing your system to a BOSE system thinking BOSE is the best ... that is your problem right there.

im not saying it won't sound good ... all i'm trying to say is that with home theatre stuff ... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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You just don't want to face the facts that you don't have to spend a lot of money to get a great setup. Just because you spent alot, doesn't mean that others have to also to enjoy a similar sounding system.

Its like the whole AMD vs. Intel thing. My friends who know nothing about PCs, wonder why the hell I would go with a Athlon 64, when Intel is more expensive and must be much better.
 
Originally posted by: JImmyK
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: JImmyK
for 600 dollars you can have an AMAZING setup I just setup one for my uncle and its better then most 1500 systems and it will SPANK any BOSE systems that your friends may brag about. here it is:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

purchase their Ventriloquist VT-12 package, you can read about it everywhere hundreds of positive reviews, you can get it on ebay for about $200

Costco has a amazingly priced 10/12 inch woofer for about $100 out the door

and get this amazing 6.1 Denon receiver for $300

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=297873

I promise NOT A SINGLE HTIB can EVEN hold a candle to this setup.
Click to expand...

well if you are comparing your system to a BOSE system thinking BOSE is the best ... that is your problem right there.

im not saying it won't sound good ... all i'm trying to say is that with home theatre stuff ... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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Who ever said Bose is the best? where did you even pull that out of?

Every noob in the AV world always has a set of BOSE Im assuming this fella also has friends that swear by their BOSE system. So I ALWAYS use that as a perfect example, a 600 dollar system that will spank a 1500 bose system and NOT have the 70-250HZ gap that most satellite systems have.


By the way you can get the speakers they use in the BOSE satellites system for 25 dollars a pair shipped from most distributors... just a good fact that most dont know..
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well since you were comparing a 600$ system to a 1500$ bose system, i was assuming you thought it was the best since you didn't compare it to a different 1500$ system. very true though that BOSE definitely has the name out there for complete n00bs to oooooh and aaaawwwww at.
 
I highly recommend the Bose Acoustimass Setup, with a name brand receiver. Great sound, small speakers, easy setup. I highly recommend the floor stands for the corner speakers, it puts the speakers right at ear level
 
Originally posted by: austin316
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: JImmyK
for 600 dollars you can have an AMAZING setup I just setup one for my uncle and its better then most 1500 systems and it will SPANK any BOSE systems that your friends may brag about. here it is:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/

purchase their Ventriloquist VT-12 package, you can read about it everywhere hundreds of positive reviews, you can get it on ebay for about $200

Costco has a amazingly priced 10/12 inch woofer for about $100 out the door

and get this amazing 6.1 Denon receiver for $300

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=297873

I promise NOT A SINGLE HTIB can EVEN hold a candle to this setup.
Click to expand...

well if you are comparing your system to a BOSE system thinking BOSE is the best ... that is your problem right there.

im not saying it won't sound good ... all i'm trying to say is that with home theatre stuff ... YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
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You just don't want to face the facts that you don't have to spend a lot of money to get a great setup. Just because you spent alot, doesn't mean that others have to also to enjoy a similar sounding system.

Its like the whole AMD vs. Intel thing. My friends who know nothing about PCs, wonder why the hell I would go with a Athlon 64, when Intel is more expensive and must be much better.
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i hate to break it to you but i have been running AMD for the past 5 or so years, when i stated building my own PC's.

i spent a decent amount of $$ on my system, but i also saved a great deal of money since i worked at BB at the current time. I know my setup is not the best, but then again, i purchased my setup when I was 18. i am definitely going to upgrade in the future. but for what i have now it is awesome, and everyone who hears my system just loves it and is shocked at how good it sounds. few of my friends come over with their favorite movies and are like "i want to watch this here cause its like the movie theatre." not to mention, i just upgraded my TV and got a 50" DLP so now its even better 🙂.

all i'm saying is that if you pay $600 for a complete system, you aren't going to get NEARLY the quality of a system as you would if you waited a while longer and saved more money. if you think you can get the same quality system for $600 as you could for $1200, then i don't know what to tell you.

EDIT: and working at best buy when I was into this stuff, i can tell you that NONE of those box systems are that great. sure, they will get you buy, but in the end run you will NOT be satisfied with it, because it will seem to lack something, especially with the sub woofers that come with the HTIB sets. they aren't powerful enough.
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
EDIT: and working at best buy when I was into this stuff, i can tell you that NONE of those box systems are that great. sure, they will get you buy, but in the end run you will NOT be satisfied with it, because it will seem to lack something, especially with the sub woofers that come with the HTIB sets. they aren't powerful enough.
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Sub was the first thing I upgraded on mine.

http://www.ttugly.com/sonosub/final/final19.jpg

Viper GTS
 
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