Walmart truck runs over Limo, Walmart blames occupants for getting hurt

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sportage

Lifer
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First... I'd hire Eric Cartman as my lawyer.

So let me get this straight.
Apparently to Walmart truck drives, everyone on the road are test dummies.
Apparently.
 

The Merg

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I don't know if you understand the nature of the job of driving. You are tasked to get somewhere in X number of hours or you are done. Whether it is rational does not matter. You get from A to B in X time or you're fired. In this day that means the chance of losing everything because you don't walk into another job. With work or ruin being the choices the former wins. Whether this applies in this specific case I can't say, but I do know it happens, often. So the the driver may have made the decision to eat and have a roof over his family's head, but ultimately those who blackmail people have responsibility in the matter. There is no such thing as a free choice when a gun is put to your head.

Edit- I see commuted 700 miles. That needs more examination. If the driver did so because of work (such as he was returning after a trip on business) then WM should have known the dangers. If he just decided to drive that distance then show up then it's on him.

The driver was told to report to the warehouse located in Delaware and he lives in GA. WalMart knew where he was coming from before he arrived in DE.

- Merg
 

Pulsar

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The driver was told to report to the warehouse located in Delaware and he lives in GA. WalMart knew where he was coming from before he arrived in DE.

- Merg

If my boss tells me to report to a particular place, it's up to me whether I do that in a safe manner.

Likewise, it's on the driver if he chooses to do what he did. There really isn't any arguing it.
 

Fern

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If Wal-Mart's claim is that the injured parties are at fault because they weren't wearing their seatbelts then Wal-Mart is full of it.

If Wal-Mart's claim is that the injured parties contributed to the severity of their injuries because they weren't wearing their seatbelts then Wal-Mart may have a perfectly legitimate srgument.

While I haven't research it I'm pretty sure that's what's happening here.

Fern
 

smackababy

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I don't know if you understand the nature of the job of driving. You are tasked to get somewhere in X number of hours or you are done. Whether it is rational does not matter. You get from A to B in X time or you're fired. In this day that means the chance of losing everything because you don't walk into another job. With work or ruin being the choices the former wins. Whether this applies in this specific case I can't say, but I do know it happens, often. So the the driver may have made the decision to eat and have a roof over his family's head, but ultimately those who blackmail people have responsibility in the matter. There is no such thing as a free choice when a gun is put to your head.

Edit- I see commuted 700 miles. That needs more examination. If the driver did so because of work (such as he was returning after a trip on business) then WM should have known the dangers. If he just decided to drive that distance then show up then it's on him.

The drivers have strict time regulations they have to abide by. They cannot, for instance, drive from LA to NY in a single go. They are only allowed, as per their regulations, to drive x amount of miles per y amount of hours.

If the driver chose to disregard the regulations put forth by Walmart or his trucking company, the company isn't liable IIRC. Now, they will sometimes settle, rather than fight this, but that depends on how much money is involved.

Walmart's lawyer is claiming that there is reason to believe that Tracy Morgan choosing to not use the safety devices required by law to be used contributed to the severity of his injury, which puts him partially at fault.
 

The Merg

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If my boss tells me to report to a particular place, it's up to me whether I do that in a safe manner.



Likewise, it's on the driver if he chooses to do what he did. There really isn't any arguing it.


Very true, but if Walmart tells the guy to be in DE at 8 am and he was told at 10 pm the night before then I would think they would be liable. Now, if the schedule was set up a week or so in advance and he had a few days off in between jobs, the onus is on the driver then.

- Merg
 

Pulsar

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Very true, but if Walmart tells the guy to be in DE at 8 am and he was told at 10 pm the night before then I would think they would be liable. Now, if the schedule was set up a week or so in advance and he had a few days off in between jobs, the onus is on the driver then.

- Merg

I agree. Hopefully enough info comes out to prove when he was told.
 

dmcowen674

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10-1-2014

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...gain_n_5912942.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Tracy Morgan May Never Perform Again, Doctors Reportedly Say



Tracy Morgan's professional fate is in limbo, with new reports indicating that he suffered a crippling brain injury following the crash he survived this summer.



He is currently in rehab for speech, cognitive, vocational and physical functionalities. Morelli said doctors don't yet know whether the wheelchair-bound Morgan, 45, will return to his previous self.
 

Pulsar

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10-1-2014

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...gain_n_5912942.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

Tracy Morgan May Never Perform Again, Doctors Reportedly Say



Tracy Morgan's professional fate is in limbo, with new reports indicating that he suffered a crippling brain injury following the crash he survived this summer.



He is currently in rehab for speech, cognitive, vocational and physical functionalities. Morelli said doctors don't yet know whether the wheelchair-bound Morgan, 45, will return to his previous self.

Now that's some classy reporting right there. They even worked in a random figure on how much cash Walmart makes. Bravo
 

Clemenza

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Comparative Negligence is nothing new and has been around for many years and is used in many states. If the defense can show that the occupants would not have been injured to the extent had they been wearing a seat belt then Wal Mart should not be liable for that amount.

I hate corporations as much as the next guy but this is a pretty well settled area of Tort law. It doesn't absolve Wal-Mart of liability, it simply reduces the amount of the award by the percentage that the plaintiff contributed to their own harm. It's also a standard defense in a state that has this system of negligence law.
 

Matt1970

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Comparative Negligence is nothing new and has been around for many years and is used in many states. If the defense can show that the occupants would not have been injured to the extent had they been wearing a seat belt then Wal Mart should not be liable for that amount.

I hate corporations as much as the next guy but this is a pretty well settled area of Tort law. It doesn't absolve Wal-Mart of liability, it simply reduces the amount of the award by the percentage that the plaintiff contributed to their own harm. It's also a standard defense in a state that has this system of negligence law.

Why do you hate corporations?
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
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Just setting the chess board. No matter how you slice it, it was partly his fault for not mitigating the damaging effects of inertia.
 

momeNt

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Just setting the chess board. No matter how you slice it, it was partly his fault for not mitigating the damaging effects of inertia.

Depends on the state, some states do reduce the award for damages, some don't.
 

runzwithsizorz

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Dave, it's a civil lawsuit case, what do you expect lawyers defending Walmart to do? Lawyers will try anything, often up to and including lying to defend their clients. What would you expect these lawyers to do - ruin their careers because Walmart is evil?

Edit: This is (much) less about corporations and more about lawyers and lawsuits anyway.

Fern

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