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jevans64

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The salary cap thing is old news. The status-shifting is the new bit Wal-Mart is implementing to boost profits. I think most people who work there will try to move into jobs that provide full-time while others will welcome less hours and yet others will be motivated to seek employment elsewhere. I work for a large company where it is VERY DIFFICULT to fill jobs starting at $9.20 ( with $36-a-month BC/BS family medical/dental, 50% matching 401k ) because of lack of labor, and we are talking about in the south where Wal-Mart is king.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:

Ok.

Anyways, how is Walmart forcing their employees to do anything? Are they not free to just go get another job somewhere else if they hate Walmart so much?

 

1EZduzit

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Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:

Ok.

Anyways, how is Walmart forcing their employees to do anything? Are they not free to just go get another job somewhere else if they hate Walmart so much?

Yeah, you can always quit. Of course if you have kids to feed, bills to pay, etc. it isn't always so easy. If they could find a better job they would have done so in the first place, don't you think? Or then maybe you don't think?
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:

Ok.

Anyways, how is Walmart forcing their employees to do anything? Are they not free to just go get another job somewhere else if they hate Walmart so much?

Yeah, you can always quit. Of course if you have kids to feed, bills to pay, etc. it isn't always so easy. If they could find a better job they would have done so in the first place, don't you think? Or then maybe you don't think?

Personal attacks aside, I think you make a valid point, some of these Walmart employees do have kids to feed, and most have bills to pay, and I sure hope that if they could find a better job then they would have by now. So they should be happy that Walmart is around, because if it wasn't for Walmart then their kids would be starving and their bills would be going unpaid.

 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:

Ok.

Anyways, how is Walmart forcing their employees to do anything? Are they not free to just go get another job somewhere else if they hate Walmart so much?

Yeah, you can always quit. Of course if you have kids to feed, bills to pay, etc. it isn't always so easy. If they could find a better job they would have done so in the first place, don't you think? Or then maybe you don't think?

Personal attacks aside, I think you make a valid point, some of these Walmart employees do have kids to feed, and most have bills to pay, and I sure hope that if they could find a better job then they would have by now. So they should be happy that Walmart is around, because if it wasn't for Walmart then their kids would be starving and their bills would be going unpaid.

Praise Walmart, our Saviour!! Hallow be thy name.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:

Ok.

Anyways, how is Walmart forcing their employees to do anything? Are they not free to just go get another job somewhere else if they hate Walmart so much?

Yeah, you can always quit. Of course if you have kids to feed, bills to pay, etc. it isn't always so easy. If they could find a better job they would have done so in the first place, don't you think? Or then maybe you don't think?

Personal attacks aside, I think you make a valid point, some of these Walmart employees do have kids to feed, and most have bills to pay, and I sure hope that if they could find a better job then they would have by now. So they should be happy that Walmart is around, because if it wasn't for Walmart then their kids would be starving and their bills would be going unpaid.

Praise Walmart, our Saviour!! Hallow be thy name.

I knew that I would get through to you eventually.

 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: JD50

I knew that I would get through to you eventually.

I can see you have a lot of valuable life experience to pass on. Maybe you should go to work for Walmart and straighten out all the ingrates they seem to have working for them.


You seem to have "the right stufff" for a job like that. A big mouth and a small heart can go a long ways in today's business climate. :laugh:
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: jevans64
The salary cap thing is old news. The status-shifting is the new bit Wal-Mart is implementing to boost profits. I think most people who work there will try to move into jobs that provide full-time while others will welcome less hours and yet others will be motivated to seek employment elsewhere. I work for a large company where it is VERY DIFFICULT to fill jobs starting at $9.20 ( with $36-a-month BC/BS family medical/dental, 50% matching 401k ) because of lack of labor, and we are talking about in the south where Wal-Mart is king.

Maybe because $9.20 isn't much. It might be compared to Wal-Mart pay, but WTF can live on $9.20 per hour? I'm not surprised you have trouble finding labor.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


2-3 cents.

last time i checked, walmart is a public company so its the shareholders that get the benefit

So they only make 2 to 3 cents after paying the Walton family and all the other overpaid management/bonuses/etc?

So, are you saying that after cutting peoples hours and benifits they might make another 1/100 of a cent more profit to send to it's shareholders? Sorry, but I'll spend a little more and keep my friends employed.

Besides, I've heard that in a small town like mine, once they put the all the competion out of business their prices are just as high as anyone elses.

Edit: If I were you, I'd think about getting rid of my Walmart stock.

Uh only two Waltons earn a salary from Wal Mart. One gets $3million for being Chairman of the Board, and the other substaintially less.

Compared to other companies, their management makes way less. Their CEO was making $3million + $5million in stock options in 2001. There were and still plenty of CEOs of much smaller companies racking in $15-20million in salary and bonuses.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


2-3 cents.

last time i checked, walmart is a public company so its the shareholders that get the benefit

So they only make 2 to 3 cents after paying the Walton family and all the other overpaid management/bonuses/etc?

So, are you saying that after cutting peoples hours and benifits they might make another 1/100 of a cent more profit to send to it's shareholders? Sorry, but I'll spend a little more and keep my friends employed.

Besides, I've heard that in a small town like mine, once they put the all the competion out of business their prices are just as high as anyone elses.

Edit: If I were you, I'd think about getting rid of my Walmart stock.

Uh only two Waltons earn a salary from Wal Mart. One gets $3million for being Chairman of the Board, and the other substaintially less.

Compared to other companies, their management makes way less. Their CEO was making $3million + $5million in stock options in 2001. There were and still plenty of CEOs of much smaller companies racking in $15-20million in salary and bonuses.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: shrumpage
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Walmart employs something like 1.2 million people last I knew. If the greedy bastards can save a lousy $1000/year/employee some asshole is going to get a nice, big bonus. The Walton family is already the richest family in the world, who with a lick of common sense in their head would support making them richer at the expense of their workers?


Out of every dollar walmart takes in, how much of it is profit?

Exactly what does that have to do with the richest family in the world forcing it's employees to accept part time rather then full time jobs?


Wow, I haven't heard about this yet. So how exactly does Walmart force their employees to do anything? These employees are not being forced to accept part time jobs, they always have the option of working somewhere else if they don't like it.

I'll bet there is a lot you haven't heard of yet. :laugh:

Considering the average Wal Mart store has a 30% turnover rate, no one is forcing anyone to do anything.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: jevans64
The salary cap thing is old news. The status-shifting is the new bit Wal-Mart is implementing to boost profits. I think most people who work there will try to move into jobs that provide full-time while others will welcome less hours and yet others will be motivated to seek employment elsewhere. I work for a large company where it is VERY DIFFICULT to fill jobs starting at $9.20 ( with $36-a-month BC/BS family medical/dental, 50% matching 401k ) because of lack of labor, and we are talking about in the south where Wal-Mart is king.

Maybe because $9.20 isn't much. It might be compared to Wal-Mart pay, but WTF can live on $9.20 per hour? I'm not surprised you have trouble finding labor.

Any single person worth a damn. Hell $9.20 is just about at the poverty line for a family of four.

If a family of four is under the poverty line it is their own damned fault.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Compared to other companies, their management makes way less. Their CEO was making $3million + $5million in stock options in 2001. There were and still plenty of CEOs of much smaller companies racking in $15-20million in salary and bonuses.

So who are you at Walmart and how much are you getting paid to post this crap on here?
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Any single person worth a damn.

Maybe out here in the sticks, sure. But just about anywhere else? No.

Well typically, places that have a higher COLA, have a high wage. You can flip burgers in Austin for $9 a hour(or could a few years ago). In the state of Texas $16000 can go a long way unless you live in a Downtown area.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Any single person worth a damn.

Maybe out here in the sticks, sure. But just about anywhere else? No.

$9.20 an hour for a family of four where I live would get you absolutely nothing, but then again, why is someone trying to support a family of four on $9.20 an hour? Keep in mind, I can only speak to the area that I live in.

 

JD50

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Compared to other companies, their management makes way less. Their CEO was making $3million + $5million in stock options in 2001. There were and still plenty of CEOs of much smaller companies racking in $15-20million in salary and bonuses.

So who are you at Walmart and how much are you getting paid to post this crap on here?

I always love these responses, someone disagrees with you so they must be getting paid by Walmart, the GOP, etc...

 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Compared to other companies, their management makes way less. Their CEO was making $3million + $5million in stock options in 2001. There were and still plenty of CEOs of much smaller companies racking in $15-20million in salary and bonuses.

So who are you at Walmart and how much are you getting paid to post this crap on here?

Im just point out that Wal Mart isnt as evil as some of you try to make them out to be. Most of their employees are full time, those that arent are cart pushers or cashiers. And what most people dont know is a lot of Wal Mart employees get pretty decent yearly bonuses.

Furthermore, their management pay is fairly low considering they are the worlds largest company. Just go look at all the management pay of other Dow companies. For the most part almost all recieved higher pay/benifits that those at Wal Mart.

The only thing scary about Wal Mart is, it is CULT.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: JD50
$9.20 an hour for a family of four where I live would get you absolutely nothing, but then again, why is someone trying to support a family of four on $9.20 an hour? Keep in mind, I can only speak to the area that I live in.

Well yeah, but we were talking about a single person. :p

At any rate, $9.20 per hour is nothing to get excited about.

 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: JD50

I knew that I would get through to you eventually.

I can see you have a lot of valuable life experience to pass on. Maybe you should go to work for Walmart and straighten out all the ingrates they seem to have working for them.


You seem to have "the right stufff" for a job like that. A big mouth and a small heart can go a long ways in today's business climate. :laugh:

why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

If walmart is so damn bad then why not go there, pick an employee you feel deserves it and offer to pay for thier further education so that they can make more money?

why don't you walk in and offer to buy a months worth of grocieries?

Why not walk in find an employee who is a single parent and offer to pay thier utilies or mortgage for a month? to help them along.


Walmart is not going to change thier ways because you think they are unfair. Its not your call, it is the call of the person working there what they feel is right for them. If they feel that under appreciated then they will have to make the decision. sh!t or get off the pot.

If you decide to boycott walmart because of thier "unfair" practices then what happens? They don't start handing out raises, they start cutting hours and laying people off....so it's not Walmart that would be screwing the people that work there, it would be you and the othes that decide not to shop there.

 

redgtxdi

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Wal mart is an inevitability, no???


Wal Mart will pwn everyone soon enough. There will be no other place to shop because no one else will be able to compete!

And we won't be able to stop ourselves because of our desire for "cheap".
 

halik

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Wal mart is an inevitability, no???


Wal Mart will pwn everyone soon enough. There will be no other place to shop because no one else will be able to compete!

And we won't be able to stop ourselves because of our desire for "cheap".

Obivously not, seeing as there are plenty of other retailers still in business that sell stuff for more. I personally shop elsewhere just to avoid the wallmart experience...
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Compared to other companies, their management makes way less. Their CEO was making $3million + $5million in stock options in 2001. There were and still plenty of CEOs of much smaller companies racking in $15-20million in salary and bonuses.

So who are you at Walmart and how much are you getting paid to post this crap on here?

I always love these responses, someone disagrees with you so they must be getting paid by Walmart, the GOP, etc...
Dang beat me too.... you realize that because I can not post the same thoughts it will cost me money that I would have otherwise earned by posting on here, you heartless Republican.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Wal mart is an inevitability, no???

Wal Mart will pwn everyone soon enough. There will be no other place to shop because no one else will be able to compete!

And we won't be able to stop ourselves because of our desire for "cheap".
Target beats the pants off Wal-mart as far the way they are run.
They may cost a little bit more, but the stores are MUCH better and the company is way more profitable in terms for sales. I think Wal-Mart has 20% gross margins to Target's 30%.
Wal-Mart certainly is bigger, but bigger is not better, just ask GM if being the biggest is helping them any.