Wake up America!

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

markjs

Senior member
Sep 4, 2000
926
29
91
Really? Give an example. Considering that's highly illegal I doubt you'll find many.

Obviously it's innuendo, but the hatred is clear. Bringing guns to Obama protests says it all, That was NEVER an issue at an anti Bush rally, if you know different prove that?
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
29,873
463
126
Obviously it's innuendo, but the hatred is clear. Bringing guns to Obama protests says it all, That was NEVER an issue at an anti Bush rally, if you know different prove that?

Just out of curiosity, why don't you just call yourself a proud liberal? The only place you differ with Obama and Pelosi seems to be when they fail to deliver on their far-left promises and are therefore folding to "special interest", and some vague pronouncements that taxes and regulations shouldn't be too high or crippling. Do you see "liberal" as such a pejorative or is this just another attempt to shift the center to the far left?

Regarding homosexuals, I don't believe they are proven to be genetically different from us. There is a fairly strong genetic component for predisposition, true, but there are also cases of identical twins were one sibling is straight and one is gay.
 

markjs

Senior member
Sep 4, 2000
926
29
91
Look I was never trying to start a debate about private citizens I referred to (or at least meant to) elected officials! I am sorry I wasn't clearer.

Show me statements from any elected official while in office or prior to being elected from their own lips that comes even near what Bachman implies in her spew almost daily about overthrow of the government, or how democrats are anti American or traitors. Show me one time a demorat EVER implied this from their own lips on You tube about a repugnant one, that shows such vitriol, and I will never post here in this forum again, save for this thread (I never have posted anything outside this thread before that I remember, but from the time you prove it forward), but it better be good!

It has to be a CLEAR CUT case of a demorat IMPLYING whether in exact words that any other elected official is anti American or a traitor, and convince me it even exists and hell I'll probably never look at even this thread again. We might need a poll thread if it comes down to it though.

I will throw up the YouTube links on Bachmann and any other repug I can as soon as I have the time to compile it. But show me YOUTUBE links of any democrat coming near the level of it. I think you can't because I think it doesn't exist. I am quite sure you'll post a lot of links of demorats saying stupid BS, and I am sure you will actually believe it is the same thing, but lets let them debate this from their own lips via our efforts.

As for private citizens I'll concede that there is no way win that debate and you might be right, though I highly doubt it. I just would be interested to shows of armed force at protest rallies from liberals if you can find it because I'd bet money if I had any that they don't exist. It has to be video though, no other way to prove such contentions, to my satisfaction.

I for my part need to stop arguing with idiots (Beck opened that door, even though he is an idiot just like EVERYONE else is to varying degrees). I want shows of video proofs. By definition I use the word "idiots" as anyone who repeats points over and over about people they are debating about or with that there is no proof or even strong evidence to back it up. Sometimes in the heat of my disdain of other idiots I am act like an idiot too, so don't whine about personal attacks when I use that word, because what I have just explained is the ONLY context I mean it in, except in fun.

Bring it!
 

markjs

Senior member
Sep 4, 2000
926
29
91
Just out of curiosity, why don't you just call yourself a proud liberal? The only place you differ with Obama and Pelosi seems to be when they fail to deliver on their far-left promises and are therefore folding to "special interest", and some vague pronouncements that taxes and regulations shouldn't be too high or crippling. Do you see "liberal" as such a pejorative or is this just another attempt to shift the center to the far left?

Regarding homosexuals, I don't believe they are proven to be genetically different from us. There is a fairly strong genetic component for predisposition, true, but there are also cases of identical twins were one sibling is straight and one is gay.

Because we have never even debated real issues, and there is no evidence that proves your erroneous claim. I will cop to the fact that I am far more scared of the radical right than the radical left, but my stances on real issues are centrist. I could go off on how pathetic bleeding hearts are, but pathetic and frightening are quite a different thing. This is the only evidence that even suggests liberalism and it is nothing.

About the gays, you'd have to autopsy both twins to prove there is only predisposition, show me that from a credible source and I'll concede that point.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
25,162
1
76
www.ShawCAD.com
Look I was never trying to start a debate about private citizens I referred to (or at least meant to) elected officials! I am sorry I wasn't clearer.

Show me statements from any elected official while in office or prior to being elected from their own lips that comes even near what Bachman implies in her spew almost daily about overthrow of the government, or how democrats are anti American or traitors. Show me one time a demorat EVER implied this from their own lips on You tube about a repugnant one, that shows such vitriol, and I will never post here in this forum again, save for this thread (I never have posted anything outside this thread before that I remember, but from the time you prove it forward), but it better be good!

It has to be a CLEAR CUT case of a demorat IMPLYING whether in exact words that any other elected official is anti American or a traitor, and convince me it even exists and hell I'll probably never look at even this thread again. We might need a poll thread if it comes down to it though.

I will throw up the YouTube links on Bachmann and any other repug I can as soon as I have the time to compile it. But show me YOUTUBE links of any democrat coming near the level of it. I think you can't because I think it doesn't exist. I am quite sure you'll post a lot of links of demorats saying stupid BS, and I am sure you will actually believe it is the same thing, but lets let them debate this from their own lips via our efforts.

As for private citizens I'll concede that there is no way win that debate and you might be right, though I highly doubt it. I just would be interested to shows of armed force at protest rallies from liberals if you can find it because I'd bet money if I had any that they don't exist. It has to be video though, no other way to prove such contentions, to my satisfaction.

I for my part need to stop arguing with idiots (Beck opened that door, even though he is an idiot just like EVERYONE else is to varying degrees). I want shows of video proofs. By definition I use the word "idiots" as anyone who repeats points over and over about people they are debating about or with that there is no proof or even strong evidence to back it up. Sometimes in the heat of my disdain of other idiots I am act like an idiot too, so don't whine about personal attacks when I use that word, because what I have just explained is the ONLY context I mean it in, except in fun.

Bring it!

Uh you don't seem to understand how challenges work. You see, when you issue a challenge for something to be topped, you need to provide the example of what needs to be topped. You so far have just bleated about how horrible you think she is and what she said was. What exactly are you talking about. You-tube or other REAL quotes would suffice. There is plenty from the left(yes, campaigning or elected) that should beat the example you have yet to provide.
"Bring it"
 

werepossum

Elite Member
Jul 10, 2006
29,873
463
126
Because we have never even debated real issues, and there is no evidence that proves your erroneous claim. I will cop to the fact that I am far more scared of the radical right than the radical left, but my stances on real issues are centrist. I could go off on how pathetic bleeding hearts are, but pathetic and frightening are quite a different thing. This is the only evidence that even suggests liberalism and it is nothing.

About the gays, you'd have to autopsy both twins to prove there is only predisposition, show me that from a credible source and I'll concede that point.

Your views on the issues you've mentioned are exactly the same as Obama's or Pelosi's. Do you really think Obama is going to say taxes should be crippling? Think Pelosis is going to give a speech endorsing "too much regulation"? if you truly believe the positions you posted, you should be supporting Obama, Reid and Pelosi who are attempting to do the things you think should be done. Admittedly they are pushing these things without attacking trial lawyers, a big funding source, but you'll never have anyone closer to the positions you support. For instance you'll find a lot of support on the far left for the idea that health care is a right and doctors and insurance companies should not be allowed to profit from health care; you'll find virtually none in the center.

Identical twins are identical genetically. You don't need to autopsy them, you can do genetic testing on live people if you doubt they are truly identical genetically (e.g. apparently identical fraternal twins, chimeras.) There's a fair amount of literature on the subject, but you've not convinced me of your openness to persuade me to do your research for you. Search medical literature for research on differing sexual orientation among identical twins, especially regarding hypothalamus size, for some fascinating reading.
 

markjs

Senior member
Sep 4, 2000
926
29
91
I love, when you can actually prove some loudmouth idiot who is ASS/U/MEing facts not in evidence, from anywhere on the political spectrum, telling someone else what they think....

Well, let's just say the silence gets loud!

Mwhahahahaha!