waiver of responsiblity?

[FuryofFive]

I am purchasing a wrestling mat from someone locally, now im not worried about myself and my brother. but if he has other wrestlers from his team over to use the mat...
im 23, there between the ages 14-18, now there are some bigger kids that has on the team.

well basically, is there a form or paper or anything i can write or find on the internet, that can basically say.. that if they get hurt, it is not my responsibility and they waive there rights. because i cannot afford to pay for someone getting hurt, let alone be responsible, as well as my mother. in the same regards

*i wrote this fast, and it might be grammatically wrong, or has spelling errors*

 

[PlasmaBomb]

/lawnchair

Space for rent...

 

[CRXican]

lol

 

[FuryofFive]

hence why i hate posting on ATOT... serious question...stupid responses 24/7

 

[darkxshade]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
hence why i hate posting on ATOT... serious question...stupid responses 24/7

by creating this thread you waived your right to receive serious answers

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
I am purchasing a wrestling mat from someone locally, now im not worried about myself and my brother. but if he has other wrestlers from his team over to use the mat...
im 23, there between the ages 14-18, now there are some bigger kids that has on the team.

well basically, is there a form or paper or anything i can write or find on the internet, that can basically say.. that if they get hurt, it is not my responsibility and they waive there rights. because i cannot afford to pay for someone getting hurt, let alone be responsible, as well as my mother. in the same regards

*i wrote this fast, and it might be grammatically wrong, or has spelling errors*

Yup.

You just need a basic document. I hereby waive (your name here) of any responsibility of any injury or harm done while using (describe mat here). I accept that I use (your name here)'s equipment at my own risk and agree not to file suit under any circumstance that could be caused by use of said equipment.

-------------------------

Now... if you shank one of your friends while using the mat, I don't think the letter would apply.

-Jason

(ps im no lawyer just acting out of experience)

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
hence why i hate posting on ATOT... serious question...stupid responses 24/7

Lighten up, gladiator boy.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: darkxshade

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
hence why i hate posting on ATOT... serious question...stupid responses 24/7

by creating this thread you waived your right to receive serious answers

i suppose in a way. i should have expected it

 

[CRXican]

stupid thread, stupid answers

of course there is a form

google "release of liability" or something to that effect

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
I am purchasing a wrestling mat from someone locally, now im not worried about myself and my brother. but if he has other wrestlers from his team over to use the mat...
im 23, there between the ages 14-18, now there are some bigger kids that has on the team.

well basically, is there a form or paper or anything i can write or find on the internet, that can basically say.. that if they get hurt, it is not my responsibility and they waive there rights. because i cannot afford to pay for someone getting hurt, let alone be responsible, as well as my mother. in the same regards

*i wrote this fast, and it might be grammatically wrong, or has spelling errors*

Yup.

You just need a basic document. I hereby waive (your name here) of any responsibility of any injury or harm done while using (describe mat here). I accept that I use (your name here)'s equipment at my own risk and agree not to file suit under any circumstance that could be caused by use of said equipment.

-------------------------

Now... if you shank one of your friends while using the mat, I don't think the letter would apply.

-Jason

(ps im no lawyer just acting out of experience)

ok, thanks. ill have to look for something like that. i think staples may sell blank forms like that. but sure though.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: CRXican
stupid thread, stupid answers

of course there is a form

google "release of liability" or something to that effect

how is it stupid? if i didnt know what it was called, whats wrong with me asking.

 

[txrandom]

Write in a clause about STDs. Who knows what will be happening on those mats when you get wrestlers involved.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: txrandom
Write in a clause about STDs. Who knows what will be happening on those mats when you get wrestlers involved.

wrestlers dont std's....then get skin diseases and whatnot, like ringworm or impetego

 

[Jeff7]

It's ATOT. We demand entertainment of whatever is in our sights.

Stuff like "My puppy died last night" will (generally) garner more civil responses.


Maybe it's also just how pathetic this whole premise is - "Come on over for some fun. But please don't sue me, my good friend."
Jesus, I think about some of the stuff that went on when I was younger; if my friends had lawyers, I'd probably be in jail. What comes to mind immediately was back in elementary school, playing a game of tag. A friend slipped and fell teeth-first on a steel bar that was part of a car-shaped jungle-gym. It broke off about half of one of her brand new adult teeth. To my knowledge, her parents took care of it by going to a doctor first, rather than a lawyer; I don't think any lawyers were ever involved. It was just an accident on the playground. As they say, "Shit happens."


I wonder, do they now have waivers for parents to sign before their kids are permitted to play at recess?

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
I am purchasing a wrestling mat from someone locally, now im not worried about myself and my brother. but if he has other wrestlers from his team over to use the mat...
im 23, there between the ages 14-18, now there are some bigger kids that has on the team.
well basically, is there a form or paper or anything i can write or find on the internet, that can basically say.. that if they get hurt, it is not my responsibility and they waive there rights. because i cannot afford to pay for someone getting hurt, let alone be responsible, as well as my mother. in the same regards
*i wrote this fast, and it might be grammatically wrong, or has spelling errors*

Yup.
You just need a basic document. I hereby waive (your name here) of any responsibility of any injury or harm done while using (describe mat here). I accept that I use (your name here)'s equipment at my own risk and agree not to file suit under any circumstance that could be caused by use of said equipment.
-------------------------
Now... if you shank one of your friends while using the mat, I don't think the letter would apply.
-Jason
(ps im no lawyer just acting out of experience)

ok, thanks. ill have to look for something like that. i think staples may sell blank forms like that. but sure though.

Note that most of the "wrestlers" are too young to be able to waive liability. You would need parental consent.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: CallMeJoe

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
I am purchasing a wrestling mat from someone locally, now im not worried about myself and my brother. but if he has other wrestlers from his team over to use the mat...
im 23, there between the ages 14-18, now there are some bigger kids that has on the team.
well basically, is there a form or paper or anything i can write or find on the internet, that can basically say.. that if they get hurt, it is not my responsibility and they waive there rights. because i cannot afford to pay for someone getting hurt, let alone be responsible, as well as my mother. in the same regards
*i wrote this fast, and it might be grammatically wrong, or has spelling errors*

Yup.
You just need a basic document. I hereby waive (your name here) of any responsibility of any injury or harm done while using (describe mat here). I accept that I use (your name here)'s equipment at my own risk and agree not to file suit under any circumstance that could be caused by use of said equipment.
-------------------------
Now... if you shank one of your friends while using the mat, I don't think the letter would apply.
-Jason
(ps im no lawyer just acting out of experience)

ok, thanks. ill have to look for something like that. i think staples may sell blank forms like that. but sure though.

Note that most of the "wrestlers" are too young to be able to waive liability. You would need parental consent.

yes, good point. He is correct, so if they are minors you will need their parents to sign too.

I highly recommend doing this.

 

[CRXican]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
It's ATOT. We demand entertainment of whatever is in our sights.

Stuff like "My puppy died last night" will (generally) garner more civil responses.


Maybe it's also just how pathetic this whole premise is - "Come on over for some fun. But please don't sue me, my good friend."
Jesus, I think about some of the stuff that went on when I was younger; if my friends had lawyers, I'd probably be in jail. What comes to mind immediately was back in elementary school, playing a game of tag. A friend slipped and fell teeth-first on a steel bar that was part of a car-shaped jungle-gym. It broke off about half of one of her brand new adult teeth. To my knowledge, her parents took care of it by going to a doctor first, rather than a lawyer; I don't think any lawyers were ever involved. It was just an accident on the playground. As they say, "Shit happens."


I wonder, do they now have waivers for parents to sign before their kids are permitted to play at recess?

OP scenario is pretty sad now that you mentione it.

Your bro is doing his teammates and/or friends a favor by providing an area for extra practice and you have to worry about liablity issues?

Pretty pathetic. I better have waivers ready for my friends to sign if I have to drive them somewhere.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
It's ATOT. We demand entertainment of whatever is in our sights.

Stuff like "My puppy died last night" will (generally) garner more civil responses.


Maybe it's also just how pathetic this whole premise is - "Come on over for some fun. But please don't sue me, my good friend."
Jesus, I think about some of the stuff that went on when I was younger; if my friends had lawyers, I'd probably be in jail. What comes to mind immediately was back in elementary school, playing a game of tag. A friend slipped and fell teeth-first on a steel bar that was part of a car-shaped jungle-gym. It broke off about half of one of her brand new adult teeth. To my knowledge, her parents took care of it by going to a doctor first, rather than a lawyer; I don't think any lawyers were ever involved. It was just an accident on the playground. As they say, "Shit happens."


I wonder, do they now have waivers for parents to sign before their kids are permitted to play at recess?

but you know the saying"its all fun and games, until someone gets hurt"

 

[tfinch2]

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm not sure having a 14-18 year old (a minor) sign a paper will erase your liability.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: Jeff7
It's ATOT. We demand entertainment of whatever is in our sights.

Stuff like "My puppy died last night" will (generally) garner more civil responses.


Maybe it's also just how pathetic this whole premise is - "Come on over for some fun. But please don't sue me, my good friend."
Jesus, I think about some of the stuff that went on when I was younger; if my friends had lawyers, I'd probably be in jail. What comes to mind immediately was back in elementary school, playing a game of tag. A friend slipped and fell teeth-first on a steel bar that was part of a car-shaped jungle-gym. It broke off about half of one of her brand new adult teeth. To my knowledge, her parents took care of it by going to a doctor first, rather than a lawyer; I don't think any lawyers were ever involved. It was just an accident on the playground. As they say, "Shit happens."


I wonder, do they now have waivers for parents to sign before their kids are permitted to play at recess?

OP scenario is pretty sad now that you mentione it.

Your bro is doing his teammates and/or friends a favor by providing an area for extra practice and you have to worry about liablity issues?

Pretty pathetic. I better have waivers ready for my friends to sign if I have to drive them somewhere.

yeah, im sad for covering my ass...thats all. this will be at my apt. with my brother.. if he chooses to have someone come with him, who am i to really stop him. im not gonna tel him no. but im not sure id want to be responsible for ruining a kids season over some extra wrestling. how do i start off by telling the parents"your son broke his hand bracing his fall." and all i can think of his who can i get to represent me when i get sue'd.. so thanks for the words of encouragement. i know one my brothers friends. who sue'd our town.. because he got hit by a car, but sue'd the town for a streetlight being out

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: tfinch2
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm not sure having a 14-18 year old (a minor) sign a paper will erase your liability.

thats why im asking

 

[txrandom]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: txrandom
Write in a clause about STDs. Who knows what will be happening on those mats when you get wrestlers involved.

wrestlers dont std's....then get skin diseases and whatnot, like ringworm or impetego

Whoosh

 

[darkxshade]

Hypothetical situation: If a minor forged a parent/guardian signature on a release of liability form and got hurt, would one still be released from liability or would they be vulnerable to a law suit?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
hence why i hate posting on ATOT... serious question...stupid responses 24/7

Yet you posted it any way.
I have a friend that started a boating group. It got to be a large group and a lawyer advised him to back out of it unless he wanted to buy insurance. He was worried that someone would get hurt on a trip that the friend organized and sue him.
A release wouldn't do it as it may not be enforceable.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
hence why i hate posting on ATOT... serious question...stupid responses 24/7

Yet you posted it any way.
I have a friend that started a boating group. It got to be a large group and a lawyer advised him to back out of it unless he wanted to buy insurance. He was worried that someone would get hurt on a trip that the friend organized and sue him.
A release wouldn't do it as it may not be enforceable.

heh, yeah, what else do i have to lose?

so your saying, even the form, or any form. Couldn't really stop them from "suing" me. I guess ill either have to be real careful. or do it elsewhere. Does home-owners insurance, or apt. insurance cover personal injury?