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IceBergSLiM

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Jul 11, 2000
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Accountability for what, exactly? Of the cables that have been put out today, is there anything that the US has done horribly wrong? There is certainly a lot of talk about things other nations are hiding, and it tips the cards for a lot of opponents of Iran too scared to talk openly (which is why, among other reasons, documents such as these are classified). What in these documents would cause the US to change their diplomatic practices?

have they all been released yet? I was under the impression only a few hundred were released.
 

crashtestdummy

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my interest in knowing the content of the documents is not to prosecute the united states for war crimes, it is to see how honest our government is being with us about their future intentions

Fair enough, but looking at what's been released (and you're welcome to argue they have much darker stuff hidden at higher clearance), I don't see anything to give you much pause.
 

JSt0rm

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Fair enough, but looking at what's been released (and you're welcome to argue they have much darker stuff hidden at higher clearance), I don't see anything to give you much pause.

Its not all released yet. Let it trickle out. On npr they said there is evidence of the us ignoring human rights abuses for certain things. Thats serious if true.
 

Jadow

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Feb 12, 2003
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It's entirely our fault, what kind of access control does the government have if a PFC can get all to this data.

Join the army, automatically get promoted to PFC after 4 months, then access hundreds of thousands of not millions of pages of secret, sensitive, US documents.

The same federal government that the left wants to take over everything can not even handle something as common sense as this correctly.

My private company has a simple policy pushed to all PCs that disables USB pen drive and cd burners unless you are in a group that needs to do that. Also we actually secure our info. The govt could learn from private enterprise.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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It's entirely our fault, what kind of access control does the government have if a PFC can get all to this data.

Join the army, automatically get promoted to PFC after 4 months, then access hundreds of thousands of not millions of pages of secret, sensitive, US documents.

The same federal government that the left wants to take over everything can not even handle something as common sense as this correctly.

My private company has a simple policy pushed to all PCs that disables USB pen drive and cd burners unless you are in a group that needs to do that. Also we actually secure our info. The govt could learn from private enterprise.

QFT
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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It's entirely our fault, what kind of access control does the government have if a PFC can get all to this data.

Join the army, automatically get promoted to PFC after 4 months, then access hundreds of thousands of not millions of pages of secret, sensitive, US documents.

The same federal government that the left wants to take over everything can not even handle something as common sense as this correctly.

My private company has a simple policy pushed to all PCs that disables USB pen drive and cd burners unless you are in a group that needs to do that. Also we actually secure our info. The govt could learn from private enterprise.

I don't think this came from one man or that low. Wikileaks has top level stuff from corps too. They have lots of sources. There are lots of people who bite the hand that feeds at all levels.
 

Jadow

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Feb 12, 2003
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I don't think this came from one man or that low. Wikileaks has top level stuff from corps too. They have lots of sources. There are lots of people who bite the hand that feeds at all levels.

according to all the news reports so far, EVERYTHING came from Bradly Manning's data dump.
 
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Or since he took the fall, it is best to make it appear that way ?

On every single fucking issue there is a conspiracy theory growing, Julian raped someone "they are out to get him", some guy stole some info and they found who it was "he was framed"....

You can either believe what you are told or offer evidence to the contrary but when everyone doubts everything every time it gets real fucking boring real fucking fast.
 

Zorkorist

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Apr 17, 2007
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according to all the news reports so far, EVERYTHING came from Bradly Manning's data dump.
Let's see all the people that called for wikileaks founder's death, call for the death of a 23 year old Private First Class.

-John