Wagons on Edmunds?

[archcommus]

Hmm...most of these don't look like wagons to me. What's the deal? Did Edmunds just decide to turn its wagons into sedans?

 

[pulse8]

Example?

 

[archcommus]

This is a wagon?

The whole list.

 

[pulse8]

It says, "525i 4dr Sedan" at the top.

 

[archcommus]

I see, they give links to the sedans at the top of the page when you click on the wagon, and the pictures in the list are of sedans, as well. But, the wagon links are at the bottom.

 

[b0mbrman]

They're all cars that are available as wagons...

 

[Ornery]

Blame the retarded American auto consumers for killing real wagons. Hell, they used to be able to haul 4'x8' sheets of plywood with the tailgate closed! Not to mention massive towing ability, and standard drive train and chassis components. Oh, but that was no good, now we're stuck with mini vans and the crap you linked to. Guess that's progress, eh? :roll:

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Blame the retarded American auto consumers for killing real wagons. Hell, they used to be able to haul 4'x8' sheets of plywood with the tailgate closed! Not to mention massive towing ability, and standard drive train and chassis components. Oh, but that was no good, now we're stuck with mini vans and the crap you linked to. Guess that's progress, eh? :roll:

Oh no, Americans are retarded because tastes change over time! :roll:

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Blame the retarded American auto consumers for killing real wagons. Hell, they used to be able to haul 4'x8' sheets of plywood with the tailgate closed! Not to mention massive towing ability, and standard drive train and chassis components. Oh, but that was no good, now we're stuck with mini vans and the crap you linked to. Guess that's progress, eh? :roll:

Sure is. Where's the market for "real wagons?"

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Sure is. Where's the market for "real wagons?"

Gee, I don't know, why not ask archcommus?

Why not ask the 50% of new vehicle purchasers who choose trucks over a car? Ever stop and think that maybe a station wagon would better fill the bill? I guarantee it would be cheaper and easier to repair than these damn FWD minivans!

 

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Sure is. Where's the market for "real wagons?"

Gee, I don't know, why not ask archcommus?

Why not ask the 50% of new vehicle purchasers who choose trucks over a car? Ever stop and think that maybe a station wagon would better fill the bill? I guarantee it would be cheaper and easier to repair than these damn FWD minivans!

Your argument is fallacious.

Americans don't want "cheaper and easier to repair." They want "more stylish and more trendy." I'd hazard that 95% of car owners don't do their own maintenance in the first place - not even oil changes.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Sure is. Where's the market for "real wagons?"

Gee, I don't know, why not ask archcommus?

Why not ask the 50% of new vehicle purchasers who choose trucks over a car? Ever stop and think that maybe a station wagon would better fill the bill? I guarantee it would be cheaper and easier to repair than these damn FWD minivans!

It would better fit the bill according to whose tastes? You yourself said it was the consumers who killed off the station wagon

 

[Ornery]

"They want "more stylish and more trendy."

That is a fact, and that's also why I say they're retarded!


It would better fit the bill according to whose tastes?

Form follows function, in my book, and a real wagon will cart everything their truck or SUV can, plus tow, be easier to maneuver, not roll over, and be cheaper to fix and maintain.

 

[Slacker]

I drove this car at over 130mph with eight adults and a load of gear, it was effortless and smooooooooooooth

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"They want "more stylish and more trendy."

That is a fact, and that's also why I say they're retarded!


It would better fit the bill according to whose tastes?

Form follows function, in my book, and a real wagon will cart everything there truck or SUV can, plus tow, plus be easier to maneuver, not roll over and be cheaper to fix and maintain.

Oh ok...so in your book. So there's a market for one wagon

 

[Ornery]

I'm not the one bitching about all the SUVs on the road today. That's the current replacement for the venerable station wagon, and it's RETARDED! I place all the blame on our idiot consumers.

 

[archcommus]

I go to take a shower and this is what I come back to?

 

[sniperruff]

eventually you'd see this

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: archcommus
I see, they give links to the sedans at the top of the page when you click on the wagon, and the pictures in the list are of sedans, as well. But, the wagon links are at the bottom.

 

[Ornery]

Acceleration 0-62 mph: 5.0-5.5 seconds Midsize cargo space, so what more could you want?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Acceleration 0-62 mph: 5.0-5.5 seconds Midsize cargo space, so what more could you want?

Probably a better design.

 

[Ornery]

Yeah, again it's all about form instead of function. Nothing new there.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Yeah, again it's all about form instead of function. Nothing new there.

What's the quote?

I'm at work and can't access it....

 

[Ornery]

I purchased this shiny aluminum gadget at the Company Store when I was an intern in Apple's DVD Studio Pro group ? not because it filled a need or was desperately useful, but because it's so elegantly designed. It's essentially a one-axis, one-button mouse -- you can rotate the top left and right, and push down to click. It makes for a great volume knob, and although I can program it to do many other things, that's what it does best.

Did I mention that it glows blue at the base? And that it pulses when the computer is sleeping? Too cool!

Consumers of iProducts... :roll: