W2k ICS problems.....(is 192.168.0.1 the only ICS IP?)

[UpGrD]

This is the deal,
I have a small office network. My SDSL line is feeding into a W2k pro box, which is connected to a hub and 4 other WinXP box's.
I would like the W2k box to act as a file/print/DSL sever.
Sounds basic right.
Well the problem I have is that my DSL modem/router has a fixed IP (192.168.0.1)
When I try to setup ICS on the Network Nic. (the w2k box has two nics, DSL nic and the network nic) I get a IP conflict. The default (no apparent way to change) ICS IP is 192.168.0.1.
Is there a way to change the default ICS IP?
I can set up the network so that the w2k box has internet and all the PC's are networked, but cannot get DSL service on any of the XP box's.
If you have any questions or comments, let them fly.

Thanks???..

 

[Saltin]

Sounds like a dirty trick on your ISP's part. The reason they hardcoded in the 192.168.0.1 addy (when they could have selected ANY private IP, or even given you the option to change it) is to cause the exact problem you are experiencing and effectively disable ICS.

I would spite them with a Linksys router. The small cost will be worth the glory.

 

[Bglad]

I have to agree. ICS sharing just doesn't work very well. You will save yourself weeks or months of hassle, depending on how stubborn you are, if you just buy a router now, because you will be buying one eventually. hehe

 

[Migroo]

<< I would spite them with a Linksys router. The small cost will be worth the glory. >>



LOL I love this kind of attitude

 

[ViperXX]

Question, isn't there some way to change the default IP of ICS in the registry?

 

[UpGrD]

I may have to go the router rout.

ViperXX, that was my first thought. But I could not find any info on that. Anyone?

 

[spyordie007]

<< Question, isn't there some way to change the default IP of ICS in the registry? >>


I looked but couldnt find anything, if anyone else knows let us know!

On a side note while looking I did find how to change the MTU when using ICS which could be useful. I have stopped running ICS though, I'm running WinRoute nowadays.

Link

-Spy

 

[Bglad]

In the registry very near the area of the tree listed in the link above for changing mtu, there should be folders for each nic card installed. There may be several more than you expect. There should also be one for ICS. You can figure out which is which either by ip address or by changing the name of the connection in my network places then looking for that name in the registry.

You could try changing the ip address in there.

HKLM
system
current control set
services
tcpip
parameters
interfaces
here should be your nics and ICS

Beware, I have not tried this and do not know if it will work.

 

[spyordie007]

bglad-

this would probably change the IP of that interface, but I'd be willing to bet that it wouldnt change the settings for it's DHCP server, than again I could be wrong I've never played with it...
I guess if it did change it's IP but didnt change the DHCP server you could still hardcode the machines's behind it's IP addresses...
who knows, worth a shot!

 

[Bglad]

No, you are right. I didn't spend much time thinking it through. I almost guarantee it won't work for just the reason you said.

Like I said before, ICS sucks. In an office setting, there is no excuse for not just getting a router and having everything work, not to mention not having all employees dependent on one machine working properly.

 

[UpGrD]

I agree the router is the way to go. I do have a Dlink DI-704 router I can install. But how would I integrate that into the network?
I tried to put the router between the SDSL modem/router in an effort to use the router to change IP's (something other than 192.168.0.1).
That did not work, Dlink and SDSL modem would not talk.
Would I place the Dlink between the server PC and the clients?
So, SDSL modem > W2k server > Dlink router > clients?
Will the router work as a hub, or would I have to work in a hub in there also?

Sorry if this seems basic, but my network skills are far behind my hardware skills......

Thanks for any and all help on this!

 

[Bglad]

You keep saying SDSL modem/router. I don't understand what that means. Is it a modem with a built in router? If so, you should be able to just plug that into a switch. Please explain.

The normal setup would be your first attempt: SDSL modem > router >line to each client (server included)

The server can still serve up anything to the clients but will get its internet access the same way all the other machines do. If the DLink isn't talking to the modem, there is probably something wrong in your setup. Or else your DSL company is doing something really funky to keep you from sharing the connection, but I doubt it.

You don't want the DLink to change ip's. You want to let it accept the ip from the modem as its WAN ip. Then let it act as a DHCP server so all the computers will get another LAN ip address from the router.

The default ip on that router is 192.168.0.1 therefore it will conflict with the modem. You have to change that manually. Thats probably why it didn't work.

So in the DLink setup your WAN ip is 192.168.0.1
Then make the DLink LAN ip something like 192.168.0.2
then let it DHCP the rest of the machines, commonly something like 192.168.0.100-199 Or you may want to make a static ip on the server if it is actually serving anything. I'm not sure from your explanation if it really is a server or if it is just running Win2K server. But this is done on that computer, not on the DLink.