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VW jetta GLI for the g/f?

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Leases only make sense if you're CERTAIN that you'll know how many miles you'll be driving over next 3+ years or so. Unless you have some amazing psychic powers and you're CERTAIN that you won't be moving or taking a new job within the next 39 months, be wary. Trust me, I learned this one the hard way.
 
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: theNEOone
what kind of issues?


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My jetta had electrical problems from the get go... The lights inside (including the dash) would randomly turn off, trunk light went out 3-4 times, headlights would burn out 2-3 times a year...

Funny you mention the headlights burning out so frequently.
Every time I see a car with one headlight/taillight burnt out, usually it was a VW.

My cousin had numerous electical issues in her Passat.

If you have an ounce of love for your GF, do NOT let her buy a VW.
 
Buy a Mini. I'd say buy a used one but you'd never find anyone selling one. Most of the dealers are co BMW and the cars are very nice and solid for the price. I would never have bought one myself until I went ot look at one.

Little brick powerhouses.
 
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Leases only make sense if you're CERTAIN that you'll know how many miles you'll be driving over next 3+ years or so. Unless you have some amazing psychic powers and you're CERTAIN that you won't be moving or taking a new job within the next 39 months, be wary. Trust me, I learned this one the hard way.

I have to agree with this as well...

When i leased my passat 3 years ago, i was only driving about 12,000 a year so we got a 15k/year lease just to make sure...

Well now i commute 100 miles roundtrip A DAY and am very close to going over my lease. So much so, i will probably have to buy my Mazda3 and let the passat sit in the parking space outside my house for a month before i turn it in.
 
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: theNEOone
what kind of issues?


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My jetta had electrical problems from the get go... The lights inside (including the dash) would randomly turn off, trunk light went out 3-4 times, headlights would burn out 2-3 times a year...

Funny you mention the headlights burning out so frequently.
Every time I see a car with one headlight/taillight burnt out, usually it was a VW.

My cousin had numerous electical issues in her Passat.

If you have an ounce of love for your GF, do NOT let her buy a VW.


Haha yep, i just had one changed out 2 nights ago.... This time it wasnt too bad, 1 hour wait and only $25.

Last time though, they said the headlight harness broke and it cost me $325 for a new one...

While VW's are fun to drive (and believe me i love driving mine), they are absolutely not worth the headache.
 
I'm gonna agree w/ the Mini suggestions. I regret so badly not getting one when they came out in 02 and I test drove it and had the chance...it would've been impulse so I didn't, but I regret it.
 
Haha yep, i just had one changed out 2 nights ago.... This time it wasnt too bad, 1 hour wait and only $25.

You went to a dealer to have the headlight bulb replaced? 😕

Seriously....my wife can replace the headlights in our Passat in about 30 seconds and for the $5.55 that the bulb cost.

 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Haha yep, i just had one changed out 2 nights ago.... This time it wasnt too bad, 1 hour wait and only $25.

You went to a dealer to have the headlight bulb replaced? 😕

Seriously....my wife can replace the headlights in our Passat in about 30 seconds and for the $5.55 that the bulb cost.

What year is yours? On my 2001.5 the passenger bulb is easy to get to, but the drivers side requires the removal of quite a few obstructions.....
 
It's a 2000. Either side is cake. Just take off the rubber cap, unhinge the spring, swap the bulbs, put the spring back in place, put the cap back on.

Done.
 
my g/f has a 2001 jetta VR6. dont know if thats the same thing, assume its just a diff engine. It is a great car, and chicks love these things. I would highly recommend it, she hasnt had any probs

slu M.D.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
It's a 2000. Either side is cake. Just take off the rubber cap, unhinge the spring, swap the bulbs, put the spring back in place, put the cap back on.

Done.

Well i guess thats where its different, that work work on the passenger side, but on the drivers side the rubber cap is beneith a tangle of other obstructions... I tried for 10 minutes to figure out how to get to it but was unsucessful....
 
Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: theNEOone
i'm also extremely informed

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Then why are you considering a lease?

The assumption that you come out ahead in 36 months by buying rather than leasing just doesn?t make mathematical sense to me if you look at the numbers. Assume a purchase price of $33,500 (inclusive of delivery) for an 05 TL w/Navi, 4.5% for both your loan rate and my lease rate (lease rate money factor of 0.00185 [I actually got a 0.00175, {4.2} you might have gotten better on your loan]), sales tax of 7.25%, 0 money down for both of us and a value at the end of 36 months of $19,765. (a 59% residual value as currently calculated by banks on a 36 month old 05 TL)(and they?re better at guessing values then we are) and we?ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you paid your sales tax up front rather than financing it and raising your payments.

Loan: A 60 month loan @ 4.5% = $624.54 /mo.
$624.54 per mo. x 36 mo. = $22,483.44
+ $2,428.75 sales tax (paid up front)
= $24,912.19 in total payments
Sell @ $19,765 - $14,998.96 Still owed on loan
=$4,766.04 in your pocket (your equity)

Lease: $481.40
Tax $34.90 p/mo (total $1,256.50 over 36 mo.)
=$516.30 x 36 months = $18,586.80
+ Acquisition fee $595
+ Disposition fee $350 = $19,531.80

Sell @ $19,765 w/0 owed = $0.00 in my pocket.

Your total payments = $24,912
My Total Payments = $19,531.80
You paid more = $ 5,380.39 difference - your $4,766.04 equity = $614.35

OK, no big difference then? Well, what about the question of whether or not you can actually get $19,765 for the car when you sell it. Will that be the value? Also, no dealer is going to give you that on trade in because that is the sales value of the car, not trade in value (it will be $2-3k less). You?ll have to go through the hassle of selling it yourself.

Stolen from another poster hear who stole it from an Acura board.
 
Take into acct those bitching about vdub are those who had bad experiences.

I have had a GREAT 8 year relationship with vdub and will continue to buy vdub in the future.
 
The Woman (tm) has had a VW Jetta TDI for ~3 years with no issues at all. I found it to be an awesome car, and if I know better I would have bought myself a 1.8 turbo thing back in the day.

It does seem like many people on the net complain about VW reliability, but I have never met a person in real life who had issues.
 
update, g/f ended up picking the mazda 3 SP23 on her own, 42 month lease, 15k miles, $268. not too bad, but considering that the car is a brand new special edition car, getting it $600 under invoice is a decent deal, especially since no dealers near me had the damn car.

mazda3 sp23


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Originally posted by: theNEOone
update, g/f ended up picking the mazda 3 SP23 on her own, 42 month lease, 15k miles, $268. not too bad, but considering that the car is a brand new special edition car, getting it $600 under invoice is a decent deal, especially since no dealers near me had the damn car.

mazda3 sp23


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its a lease? great car btw. is she going to do a buyout at the end of the lease?
 
Originally posted by: TechnoKid
its a lease? great car btw. is she going to do a buyout at the end of the lease?

i guess it depends on how the car behaves, but we're young and expect to be changing cars every few years so the answer for her is probably "no".


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