Vulnerabilty of our society /economical processes

[peetu2valo]

Living on an island like me has it's pros and cons: 4h with the train from my home to Helsinki or 1h per aircraft sometimes gives you a special view on what is going on. I'm just waiting that our highly vulnerable and optimized economical processes and oversophisticated supply chains will once get under attack and will take away the pulse and light of economy - and put us back to our darkness.D:
/peetu2valo

 

[Moonbeam]

There is no human being on earth who is not in some way in exactly the same position. We are all dependent on others and enmeshed in a society, without which we could not survive. This is what it means to be mortal and probably why we have a natural animal being joy in being alive. Sometimes, either maybe for chemical reasons, environmental reasons, in the north maybe low levels of sun light, or more commonly, things that have happened to us as children that screw up that natural joy as the result of being repressed because they are painful, start to surface as we become young adults, the results of any or several of which, can lead to a feeling of depression and an undefined sense of unease, a fearfulness about life, sadness, and or depression.

I would want to look into being certain you don't have any medical condition that may be causing you to brood or obsess on facts that aren't necessarily anything anybody else doesn't face, but isn't really disturbed by.

We have large brains and we use them to plan strategically for our survival, but that can become a curse if we aren't careful. Lots of Americans have built bunkers and stocked them with food and ammunition for the day when the United Nations black helicopters land. It's a problem people can have in the middle of paradise and a problem where absent, makes the worst environments on earth a paradise for the lovers of life.

As one spiritual teacher I ran across once said, "Relax and be happy".

 

[PJABBER]

Living on an island like me has it's pros and cons: 4h with the train from my home to Helsinki or 1h per aircraft sometimes gives you a special view on what is going on. I'm just waiting that our highly vulnerable and optimized economical processes and oversophisticated supply chains will once get under attack and will take away the pulse and light of economy - and put us back to our darkness.D:
/peetu2valo

Glad to see some commentary from the land of Riku Rantala and Tunna Milonoff, my absolute favorite reality show hosts. Are they still doing anything there?

Living in isolated environments has both reward and punishment. First, you get to spend more time with yourself. Second, you spend more time with yourself. Now is the time to build as wide a group of friends as you can.

As you have Internet access, you avoid cultural isolation. If our infrastructures break down, you will miss this. On the plus side, you already probably have the wherewithal to go make a go of it without too much of an adjustment.

The Sami people have a long history of dealing with extreme conditions and some of the worst of outsiders trying to impact their lives. I would revisit those lessons if you are worried.

 

[peetu2valo]

Thanks for the replies so far. However, to avoid misunderstandings / and wrong perception of how people see this: I'm neither depressive nor do I fancy dreams of dystopia ;-) I'm just thinking that the current level of automation, the dependency to electric power, the internet as a pre-requisite to steer power/industrial plants, daily consumer processes and many more has already achieved a degree where 99% of the population is not even aware, of what would happen if 'our darkness' would come. Just take a look to the recent Indian mega blackout. Just suppose this would last not 48h but a week and this would be the US or Europe and not India.... - And I think I do not even have to talk to the hardly 30.000 people in the little town far in the North of Europe, where I live. But sometimes I feel, that it would be good to let them know how this is... - just as a joint civil defense exercise.
/peetu2valo

 

[PJABBER]

I don't know that any government would approve of knocking power out for a week as a test of what would happen.

Power supports hospitals, traffic lights, schools, as well as all of the ways most people make a living. Take it away and you start having death and despair.

You live way up north and get extremely long days or nights, depending on the time of year. People can do OK psychologically with daylight but going through a season of those long, long nights without electricity will make for some interesting social dynamics.

If the grid goes down for more than a week or so, ie you get the effect of an EMP or maybe a crazy powerful solar storm, vulnerable people will start dying, those on life support and old people first. Then in the second week various diseases will start popping up. By the third week, food and potable water will be scarce and you will find that very few know how to live off anything other than scavenging. Four weeks and you will be looking at about 20% of the population dead or so near to it that it really is only a matter of a few more days.

Summertime, people in rural areas can get away from the towns and do some fishing or hunting, they don't have the same absolute requirement for shelter and heat.

It is much harder to live up north in the winter. It can be done, especially by those who can build a mutually supportive and cooperative group with strong and competent leaders. You burn a lot of calories, water is harder to get.

The cities will be much worse off than small towns as the interdependencies are much greater.

You can start studying up on being a survivalist if you think the end is nigh. Nothing is stopping you from being prepared just in case. Just be aware that no matter what you prepare for, something else is what will happen.