VR-Zone: FX-9590 is the final legacy of the FX line

[Sweepr]

...In late July VR-Zone obtained a series of documents given to OEMs by AMD behind closed doors (the document we obtained is heavily watermarked so we can’t post it publicly). This document says that engineering samples of Kaveri won’t be ready until August, production candidate samples will go out in October and initial production will begin in December. The target launch into channel is now mid-February 2014 meaning that consumers will be able to buy the chip until the spring.

Interestingly the document also made it clears the days of the big core are numbered, leaving the FX-9590 as the final legacy of the FX line.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/hold-fo...d-is-delaying-kaveri/49389.html#ixzz2bC74xy5L

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Without AMD who will we say is slower so we're faster?

It's sad to see they've given up on performance desktop and gone for APUs instead. I guess they'll end up phasing out their d gpu lineup too I imagine.

 

[mikeymikec]

Wasn't Bulldozer's release delayed as well? Or was it just that it took so long that everyone understood that to be a 'delay'?

 

[jihe]

Pyrrhic victory for intel on the desktop...

 

[inf64]

So they have 2015 desktop/server roadmaps right? Funny since probably AMD didn't show such roadmap to anyone yet.
FX8xxx/9xxx is what AMD will sell in 2014. There will be no SR based FX. This doesn't mean they won't have any FX chip in 2015 or that they won't brand APUs as FX either ( think about possible 6C SR or EX based chip with iGPU,all unlocked).

 

[BallaTheFeared]

AMD stated they weren't going to compete for desktop performance anymore, so that will mean not making products I think, not just making products that don't compete.

 

[parvadomus]

Without AMD who will we say is slower so we're faster?

It's sad to see they've given up on performance desktop and gone for APUs instead. I guess they'll end up phasing out their d gpu lineup too I imagine.

I dont think they have given up. But its safe to say they wont throw more money on parts that dont compete (until they make a big core that can, or at least can in the server market).
About dGPUs, they are on par with nvidia, and they will ever be since their fabs are the same, and GPU archs are simple, compared to CPUs.

 

[Chiropteran]

That is what I suspected, which is why part of me wanted to buy one just to own. 60 years from now such CPU might be collector's items.

 

[jihe]

Seems AMD should rename itself to ATI...

 

[Makaveli]

That is what I suspected, which is why part of me wanted to buy one just to own. 60 years from now such CPU might be collector's items.

in 60 years for now that processor will be worth less than a 486 is now.

And the only times I ever see 486's now is on people key chains :biggrin:

 

[zephyrprime]

Kavari still uses the shared resources core idea of the bulldozer so in truth the legacy of the FX core lives on. It's just that they wanted to ditch the FX brand since it has negative brand value due to being slower than the competitor's products.

 

[jacktesterson]

This is not the end of Desktop CPU's. While they are somewhat admiting they are going to focus on the Budget/Mainstream Audience, Desktop CPU's will continue to come just not under the FX name.



Both AMD and Intel need new naming schemes anyways.

 

[Chiropteran]

in 60 years for now that processor will be worth less than a 486 is now.

And the only times I ever see 486's now is on people key chains :biggrin:

To you maybe, but for collectors it has a value. Value comes from rarity, and special circumstance. A 486 has almost no collector's value because they were commonplace and everywhere, and never rare. The 9590, if it really is AMD's last performance CPU, is unique in that aspect and fairy rare based on what everyone is saying about the number of them produced.

A 2013 Focus might have more horsepower than the original mustang, but in 50 years a 2013 model Ford Focus is going to be basically worthless while an original '64 Mustang will still be an incredible collector's item.

 

[Makaveli]

To you maybe, but for collectors it has a value.

Its really subjective and it could go either way. Last I checked processors don't hold the same value as a car.

Guess we will have to wait 60 years to find out I should still be alive

 

[LegSWAT]

Dump the FX brand and its unflattering "bulldozer" image. If the market wants it, AMD can always crank up APU module count and cut some shaders.

 

[mikeymikec]

Pyrrhic victory for intel on the desktop...

Not really:

A Pyrrhic victory is a victory with such a devastating cost that it carries the implication that another such victory will ultimately lead to defeat

If, on the other hand, AMD had regained the performance crown on the desktop after having sunk say 75% of its R&D into it, only to find that hardly anyone was buying their over-priced parts, that would be a Pyrrhic victory because such a strategy would probably toast the company within three years.

@ LegSWAT

I doubt that any amount of re-branding would help AMD right now. They need to increase IPC by about 50%, decrease power usage by about 50%, and make significant improvements to their mobo chipsets and driver QA. AMD hasn't got the resources to do that, so we won't be hearing anything interesting from them at any point soon on the x64 front.

 

[frozentundra123456]

One never knows what could become valuable I guess. But usually something that becomes a valuable collectors item is something that was unique or groundbreaking at the time it came out. Like the Mustang. It was unique when it came out and started the whole "pony car" craze of the sixties and early 70s. Likewise, I believe some of the very first Apple computers are very valuable now because they started the PC craze.

Back on topic, I would take this article with a grain of salt, because I don't think anyone really knows what is going to happen. I like the idea of a separate line of cpus with no igp and all the die devoted to CPU performance, but unfortunately for amd it was overpowered by a quad Intel in most applications.

I think it does make sense for amd to devote all their resources to apus though, since the igp is the only place where they are superior or even competitive with Intel. I also think the console wins might give a boost to adoption of HSA, but like Intel with avx2, no one really knows how the adaption rate will be.

 

[Soulkeeper]

I want to see one socket to rule them all for >kabini.

Mid/highend APUs + desktop performance
lowend APUs (kabini market)

 

[frozentundra123456]

Not really:



If, on the other hand, AMD had regained the performance crown on the desktop after having sunk say 75% of its R&D into it, only to find that hardly anyone was buying their over-priced parts, that would be a Pyrrhic victory because such a strategy would probably toast the company within three years.

Technically you are correct that it was not a Pyrrhic victory. But I think what he was trying to say, is that if it in fact was a victory on the desktop, it was not really due to any great recent advances by Intel, but more amd leaving the competition, if that is in fact what they do. Sort of a victory by default. This is only one article though, so it seems too early to be sure what will happen.

Unfortunately if amd does go to 4 core apus only, I think it lessens the chance of a mainstream hex core ever coming out from Intel.

 

[bgt]

Sad if the FX is the last super CPU from AMD.

 

[thilanliyan]

I don't care if it's an APU as long as the CPU is fast. But damn, it's looking less likely that I can have a SR to drop into my AM3+ m/b

 

[mikeymikec]

Sad if the FX is the last super CPU from AMD.

If the FX range are "super", then what was the Athlon 64 to you, the 'second coming'?

 

[Vesku]

Makes sense to go all APU, but it will be a shame if these power guzzling 4 module Visheras are the last of AM3+. Given the low volume of the FX line I'd think it's a perfect early intro for Steamroller. A few 100 thousand chips would be enough to fill most of the existing AM3+ custom market.

 

[bgt]

If the FX range are "super", then what was the Athlon 64 to you, the 'second coming'?

I don't know what you mean with the "second coming"??? coming of what?

 

[PPB]

Without AMD who will we say is slower so we're faster?

So your buying decisions are based on the implicit link you are making (reading between the lines in your post) between you buy's worth based on performance and your self worth? Interesting :hmm:

For anyone owning an AM3+ board, the sooner you admit you wont be receiving a SR based solution the faster we can move on FMx and it's advantages over such an acient plataform.