VR 3D Goggles

[flexy]

I was looking around and found
http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_vr920.html

which seem to be very interesting to me. The only thing bothering me is the resolution of only 640x480....but reviews so far say this is a pretty "ok" gadget especially considering that this is a merely $350.

My question now is:

Has anyone experience with ANY VR/3D glasses...NOT the ones you use on your monitor....but googles which have their own LCD screen and provide a real virtual monitor?

Also..i am on Vista64 and i do have a Geforce 8800 GTS...and i am interested in the state of Nvidia 3D drivers, see http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d_stereo.html#displays

According to the listed VR920, it is actually working with all current games, WoW listed first ...

I also found some VR goggles on ebay, prroviding higher (800x600) resolution....here the question what games are working with those...what drivers are needed...respective what glasses do the nvidia drivers support?

The VR920 are actually so "cheap" (now with the EU against the USD) that i consider getting them just to check out what it is about.

Please give me your input in regards to real 3d gaming on the PC.

G.

Edit: There is even cooler stuff out there...just to mention a "3D Projector" capable of projecting 3D like in Imax at 120hz....but the almost $4k for this thing would just be too much for my budget. I think that wearable 3D goggles like the VR are the way to go....but i still have a thought as if the specs are just too low (especiallly resolution!) to make this more than a little gadget, something you put away after you tried it because it's just not "ripe" and advanced enough.

Someone compared the impression with the VR920 to "bigger than sitting in front of a 17" screen but smaller than sitting in front of a 24"...and some of the reviews they also didnt get the 3d mode working (then what's the point ????) and said it only works using an old 7600 card since the NV drivers are so old. (NOTE: The 3d drivers on NV site are from Marcjh 28, 2008!!! They should work on any GF, but maybe only under Vista32?)
Makes me wonder why is there no more research and mainstream market going on in this area? I alway, always "dreamed" of a VR display which creates a full, 180 deg view.
Are those super goggles (i am certain they exist!!!) only used by the military...and we "consumers" get ridiculous low-specced parts?
IMHO LCD display technology is advanced enough nowadays...so why isnt there a reasonable VR display with, say, 1024+ ++ resolution ?

 

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[krnmastersgt]

It's simple economics, pc gamers are a large portion of the computer market but most of them are "casual" in that they don't have bleeding edge systems, or even relatively recent systems. So why would they target a market that obviously doesn't spend hundreds on the hardware? This stuff isn't cheap to produce with the resolutions you're asking for, sure they could do it but is it profitable? No.

 

[flexy]

i did some more research,

i am very interested in the emagin Z800 glasses OR also the Zalman zm-m220W 3D Monitor.

Yes...teh stuff is not "cheap"...but looking at the VR920 you can get this for $350, the Z800 VR Glasses have been increased in price, once have been sold for only $600 and now have been shot up to $1400. The Zalman 3D Monitor is about $550.

If you would get value for the extra money you spend then i do NOT see anything wrong with it. There are people who spend MUCH MORE on things like SLI, watercooling and other gadgets.
I was always interested in 3D technology. I would not mind spending a "little" on a silly gadget if i actually get somethign in return.

I read awesome reviews peopel playing WoW on the zalman 3D monitor....and reviews how the z800 is the best (up-to-dat) VR set...so i am wondering eg. how a headset HMD like the Z800 would compare to a 22" 3D monitor, in terms of field of view and in regards to general "immersion" in the game.

 

[JACKDRUID]

i tried one of those 3d glasses a long long time ago, 10yrs ago.. and it was total AWESOME! but there weren't many game support at the tiime...so it died down..

I would definately try/try again if it is more supported, the Nvidia thing looks interesting... ;D definately worth it!

 

[flexy]

well as for the Z800, according to what i read almost all current games, DirectX and OpenGL are supported. And NV just released a new 3d driver this April.

But the more i read, the more interesting things i discover:

IMHO, the currently best 3d solution is actually via a consumer Samsung DLP TV which is "3d Ready". This is a relatively new "normal" HDTV which, in addition, has 3d features and only needs a $100 3d-glasses set to get you going. This sounds absolutely awesome and would combine latest 3d tech with the size of a huge screen, and cost is "reasonable", assuming you're in the market for a big screen anyway. Problem is, those TVs are not available in EU.

There are other interesting solutions, for example using two DLP projectors and using polarized filters etc..etc...

There are even DIY solutions using two "normal" LCD monitors using half-way mirrors etc..etc..

I strongly tend towards the VR googles, but the 800x600 resolution irks me, even if people say its actually not that big a deal. I just would like to see one of those in action to get an idea how the FOV is and the general "experience".

The Z800 are still "reasonable"...going or 600-900 or so, if you find them. So its nothing compared to VR sets which can cost you $60.000. Its based on OLED. I just wonder...why do they produce this using 800x600 in a 4:3 resolution. I think this would be killer if it would support higher resolution and widescreen. Even if it would be $1500, maybe $2000....remember what WS LCDs cost a few years ago.

3d tech has come some way since the last few years...i remember the old days of the elsa relevator and shutter-techniques...but today there is a lot of interesting stuff out, either working without flickering...using polarized images etc...and i was always fascinated by this

This stuff is already talked about and fantasized of since the early 80s when cyberspace was trendy....its just odd that we dont have the affordable killer-goggles yet...talking about 100+ degrees FOV and "normal" gaming resolution. This would *so* wipe out any current "fish-tank" style monitor and TV technique.....i just dont understand why those were never that much in demand and are rather considered a niche-gadget for hyper-techno freaks and cybernerds but not for the "normal" user.

Tech is the same..LCD/OLED...just smaller..some optics...the wzhole thing doesnt need to weigh more than 300g. If we would have the same market there as we have for "normal" LCDs right now...we could buy them for $200-$300 right now as we do w/ digital cameras or WS LCDs monitors, and i can guarantee that NOONE would ever go back to a "normal" display , not to mention 2D once they are immersed in a "true" 3d with a giant FOV in front of the eyes.