If your VPN hub (router/concentrator/what have you) is sitting behind a firewall do you need to configure ACLs to permit LAN traffic thats encapsulated in the tunnel (say standard site to site tunnels using ipsec or gre tunnels/ipsec) or is the firewall only going to see just the actual tunnel building traffic (gre, isakmp traffic, etc) only and not what's passing through inside? Did that make sense?