VP Dick has Hard-on for Bondage, Torture. Bush says no, but you know he wants it

[Bitek]

Cheney under siege
By Jim Lobe

WASHINGTON - Has US Vice President Dick Cheney become so much of an albatross around his boss' neck that he will have to go?

While that question may appear a bit premature at the moment - speculation about the tenure of President George W Bush's chief political adviser, Karl Rove, remains on the front burner - it has loomed over the White House since Cheney's chief of staff, I Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was indicted 10 days ago.
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According to Newsweek, Cheney's power has already shriveled to virtually nil. It quoted "a senior official sympathetic to Cheney's policies" last week as saying, "You can say that the influence of the vice president is going to decrease, but it's hard to decrease from zero."

...Cheney's aggressive opposition to the so-called "McCain Amendment", which earned him the title of "Vice President for Torture" from the Washington Post's editorial board, offers some measure of his confidence that he retains Bush's ear.

...Bush has backed Cheney on this question, even while he insisted that "we do not torture". Responding to media questions in Panama on Monday, the president asserted that, "Anything we do [to protect the American people] ... any activity we conduct, is within the law."

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Just what is Cheney after? Torture does not aid our efforts any, nor is it an effective means to gather information. The Mc Cain amendment (as if we needed another reason to admire McCain) passed 90-9 and is now attached to another spending bill. Any Congressmen who endorses Cheney's plans will be tossed of office in '06 as a torturer. Bush's excuse that we need so that the terrorists "don't know what we have off the table" is retarded.

A 19% approval and surrounding controversy will drag Bush and the Repugs down even further. How long until Darth Cheney is cut off, or will Bush go down with the ship?

 

[Strk]

Who were the 9 who voted against the bill anyways?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Strk
Who were the 9 who voted against the bill anyways?

Role Call Vote

9 Against:

Allard (R-CO), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Stevens (R-AK), Nay

Honorable Mention:

Corzine (D-NJ), Not Voting


Go figure.

 

[sandorski]

In one of Cheney's near death experiences, Satan made a deal with him: Cheney gets to live as long as he works towards Hell on Earth. If Bush stops listening to Cheney, Cheney will soon be taken for he will no longer be effective, rendering the deal null and void. So I must ask you, do you want Cheney to go to Hell?

 

[morkinva]

time for more ethics classes

 

[Bitek]

The Tuesday results will embolden VP opponents to move harder against him. Who will stand with Dick "Loser" Cheney for torture when the empire is crumbling around them?

Why oppose restrictions on torture if we "do not torture" in the first place?

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Hafen
The Tuesday results will embolden VP opponents to move harder against him. Who will stand with Dick "Loser" Cheney for torture when the empire is crumbling around them?

Why oppose restrictions on torture if we "do not torture" in the first place?

because words mean nothing, laws do

 

[Moonbeam]

Look, we don't torture but we don't want the people we capture to know that. Get it. WE DON'T NEVER EVER TORTURE PEOPLE BUT KEEP IT QUITE, OK CAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE TALIBAN TO KNOW. SO SHUT UP ABOUT IT. WE DON'T TORTURE BUT WE WANT THE TALIBAN TO KNOW THEY WILL TALK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WHEN WE CAPTURE THEM. NO TORTURE, SEE, JUST THE EXTRACTION OF INFORMATION. JUST KEEP IT QUITE. LOOK IT'S A FAKE DENTIST DRILL FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. IT'S NOT TORTURE TO MAKE BAD PEOPLE TALK. THAT'S GOD AND COUNTRY SEE. AND WE DO IT IN SECRET ANYWAY SO NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW. YES WE NEVER EVER USE TORTURE AND DON'T TELL ANYBODY OR WE'LL STRIP OFF YOUR FLESH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Moonbeam]

The Al Qaeda must never know we will treat them humanely if we capture them, see, or they will never talk. So we must never say we don't torture cause we don't ever torture but we don't want them to know. See, that's why we want you to know we never torture but don't want to make it a law. We will never ever torture, but we might, and might is right. I think I get it now. Never admit you torture or make any laws against it that could land your ass in jail.

 

[Uhtrinity]

Maybe they are just playing good cop / bad cop, Bush is in the front trying to save face for the admin, Cheney is in the background trying to make policy. Now some say that there is some infighting within the admin, but I belive they are still working closely together pushing policy and damage control.